Robin Hood
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On 4/6/2022 at 7:21 PM, Mbrooks44 said:
I think it’s time to sit down and relax. I for one ordered in June. It was just built and hasn’t left the factory for over a week due to a train delay. If you let the dealer run you around, it’ll happen. Stand up and demand the sales manager or go to the dealer to speak with them.
Why? The truck won't get here any faster.
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I sell all my vehicals private party. It's a lot easier if you take really good care of your stuff and present it well when you put it up for sale. I can't recall any really bad experiences. Most of my cars/trucks sell to the first, maybe second person that looks at them. There is way to much money left on the table to trade it in to a dealership.
It's too bad that the used car market is being handed over to the dealerships. It is getting harder and harder to buy used. Big business is squeezing the little guy every way they can. If you put in the effort, there isn't a lot of competition amongst private party sales.
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I would start by asking the average KBB private party price. I am not sure how the 6.2, LB and color will affect the demand. Not a real popular truck IMO.
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35 minutes ago, fordmantpw said:
A special B&W hitch. If you already have a hitch (as I do, a B&W BTW) that goes into the pucks, you'd have to buy a new hitch to go into the turnover ball.
Yes, but a lot of people buying a new truck don't already have a puck hitch. You can also just buy the base for the drop in portion and use the head off your existing hitch B&W hitch. It may not be a good option for you, but if I couldn't get the factory puck from the factory, then I would go with the B&W turnover ball system. Anyways...it is another option.
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Just ordered today...we'll see what happens?
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9 hours ago, fordmantpw said:
Not if you want the pucks to mount a fifth wheel hitch in. The B&W turnover ball doesn't have that.
You don't need pucks...The B&W turnover ball accepts a B&W fifth wheel hitch.
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Probably better off just using the B&W turnover ball mount if you need to install after receiving the truck.
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46 minutes ago, akirby said:
I believe you pay sales tax in your home state/county regardless of where you purchase. At least that’s how it works in GA.It is my understanding that he is in Tucson, AZ. If he buys anywhere in the state he will pay the tax rate at that dealership, not his address. If he buys out of state he is suppose to pay the tax at his address to AZ. If he ends up paying the tax in GA then AZ will give him a credit towards the tax due in AZ. If he paid more than is due based on his address then he will not pay any additional tax in AZ.
My point was that Oracle Ford has one of, if not the lowest tax rate in AZ, they are a small dealership and accept X-plan. If you live in AZ, they are a very good option.
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I keep a current KBB value up on my computer. The values dropped just briefly by a small amount and are now at or close to all time highes that I have seen in the last year. I track a 2017, 2019 and 2021 F350 CC LB 6.7 4X4
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52 minutes ago, JT42 said:
What exactly is the meaning of "death wobble"? From the day I drove my truck home from the dealer I noticed having to make small corrections left or right at highway speeds. After about 450 miles these corrections have almost dissipated, I assume the dissipation is from the tires getting some wear on them. Just curious when people say death wobble what they are talking about, i.e. if it these corrections or something else.
Yes, what you felt was probably the new tires pulling just a bit. Although with too little of caster they it will tend to wonder more. I just scheduled my truck in to get the front end and castor checked at an alignment shop. I will plan to have them bring it up to 3 degrees castor if it is currently less.
The death wobble is a violent almost uncontrollable shaking of the front end. My previous truck started to dance around on bumps and un-even payment before it got really bad. It would feel like the rear end would jump out on me. My 22 is starting to show the same symptoms. The shop I called said they are seeing issues with the pitman arm with as little as 5000 miles.
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1 hour ago, ChuckDiesel said:
Has anybody had one of these installed? I'm putting on a 2" level kit with track bar relocation and updated caster shims. My dealer said they've been installing these on all of them to stop the death wobble and have had great experiences with them, no issues at all. Anybody got any experience with this? Thanks!
The death wobble is caused by to little castor. I have not heard a good reason why Ford doesn't add more castor to these trucks from the factory. The steering damper helps control the problem, so a heavy duty steering dampener will mask/help control the problem, but just know that it is still there. I have had a steering dampener replaced under warranty 3 times on two different trucks. The death wobble wears out the factory dampener pretty fast in my experiance. The interesting thing is that is has been worse on the trucks with the 18" wheel/tire package then the 22" wheel/tire package. My 22/18" wheels/tires, with 6500 miles is starting to jump around more everyday. I am going to look deeper into adding more castor before replacing the dampener. Personally, if I was going to replace the dampener, I would buy the one of the two Fox dampeners.
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On 3/25/2022 at 3:38 PM, westernsky said:
Might as well place an order for a 22 now. If it doesn’t get built, you might get a spot in line for a 23 before others.
I'm tempted to place an order for a 22 knowing it might get rolled over to a 23. The challenge would be when to put my 22 up for sale and how much will it be worth at the time.
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On 3/25/2022 at 8:54 AM, mtptuc said:
That is the question -- pay MSRP (and probably additional garbage fees also forgone by X-Plan), or wait. In my case, a local Tucson dealer from whom I've bought 3 was playing the MSRP + 4K 'market adjustment' game and would not honor X-Plan even on a build, so he quickly became my ex-dealer and I ordered with X-Plan from a dealer from GA (whom I'd like to customize it anyway). Are you good with waiting 4-6 (or more?) months for a build? You only have a few days left with order banks now officially closing on 22's 4/1, so who knows when 23's orders will be open. Of course that may be another reason to wait and just build -- if you can handle the unknown there.
GA? Why didn't you just buy from Oracle Ford? They will take X-plan and the sales tax is lower.
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On 3/26/2022 at 6:05 AM, Monoman said:
and some say driving BEVs on long trips is a show stopper. LOL
I'm not even sure there is an aftermarket upsized tank available for gassers.
22 CC, LB, 6.7 4X4 has an 800 mile range without a trailer. If you buy a grocery getter, then they come with a grocery getter tank...LOL
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35 minutes ago, tbone said:
Yep, experiencing the same issue and it’s highly annoying. Ford is too cheap to put the capless filler on the Superduty gassers like on the F-150. The Superduty setup pretty much sucks.
Capless sucks IMO...one of mine works fine the other is a total PITA as stated above.
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Air suspension and horns with on board air tank
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On 3/15/2022 at 12:22 PM, 420Brady said:
Extended warranties are largely for peace of mind; especially given the pricing on these new trucks. That said, I think pricing from places like Flood and Granger (quoted) are very reasonable. A couple of other points that may not have been noted on my quick scan are that you can cancel and get a prorated refund (if/when you trade or sell the truck) or if you're not ready to buy the extended warranty when you purchase the truck, you can pick it up down the road within reason (miles/age).
I wonder how the pro rate is calculated. If it starts from the original manufacturer date like the warranty does then you would lose a large portion that doesn't serve any use.
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1 hour ago, khansen said:
It's a Westin HDX grille gaurd 130lbs. Factory Bumper.
Doesn't look factory to me.
Bumper...a device for absorbing shock or preventing damage (as in collision) specifically : a bar at either end of an automobile.
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1 hour ago, khansen said:
I have a 2022 superduty with a Diesel. And I put a 2 1/2" level kit in it. and i like it. The only thing I dont like, is Bidens fuel prices !! OH YES, they had to realign the front end.
You also put a really heavy bumper on the front.
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8 hours ago, Wofulcyrcle said:
HI all,
I have an F350 in transit to the dealer who sent me a list of accessory options. One of the options is a readylift level kit for $595. A diesel mechanic I take my current truck to said I should consider a level kit and new shocks because the factory shocks are junk it would prevent the death wobble. I really don't know anything about leveling kits.
Is a leveling kit important to have and what exactly does it do to improve the driving characteristics of the truck? I tow a 15,000 pound fifth wheel intermittently in the summer - will it affect the towing? Is readylift a good leveling kit? What other kits are out there and what do you all recommend? Is there any other information I should know?
Thanks for the help
Is it possible you miss understood your mechanic? If this was truly his statement then I would probably start looking for a new mechanic.
Any lift in the front without adjusting for caster will increase the death wobble. It is a caster issue, not a shock issue. Shocks, steering dampners, etc may help mask the problem, but will not solve the problem. Also, a 2.5" level kit on a 2022 will make it sit slightly higher in the front. The leveling kit was designed for a 17-22 SD that had more rake front to rear.
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Sounds like they make more money selling equalizer hitches to guys with under-rated trucks and over loaded and/or unbalanced trailers.
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There isn't as much rake in the 20-22 model years. My 22 with heavy duty springs in the front sits 1 5/8" lower in the front.
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3 hours ago, Dog breath said:
I do believe from my own experience that if you mess with air pressure in front tires, lift the truck or put under rated or weak sidewall tires on your strait axle truck no matter what brand you have, you have to take into consideration the castor. Doing the lift properly and you wont have any issues. I see videos of the death wobble and have to wonder if things aren't altered to make money on these sights. very easy to do when the vehicle is as close as they are to -2 degrees castor.
My 19 (6.7L, CC, LB 4X4) got really bad at one point and it was bone stock. It was in the dealership 3 different times getting the steering dampener replaced. I ran 65 to 70 PSI in my front tires (65 was the recommended pressure). Interestingly, the 22 has a recommended pressure of 70 PSI and that is what I have been running.
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3 hours ago, akirby said:
I was referring to caster changes and other cheap and easy fixes. Some things are better left to the aftermarketThis is where I actually struggle with resolution to the caster issue. The aftermarket says it can be easily fixed with new radius arms. If it is this simple, why hasn't Ford resolved the issue. My inclination tells agrees with you, if it was this easy then why didn't ford just change the caster to fix the issue. Sometimes manufactures have their hands tied for another reason that the aftermarket doesn't have to worry about.
Years back my wife' Toyota Sequoia would eat tires. A simple alignment to aftermarket recommended setting resolved the issue. This was a cheap and easy fix, so why didn't Toyota run these settings? I don't know.
2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion
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IMO...This would be a rather poor way to treat a customer who committed to an order and Ford did hold up their end.