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blackduty

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  1. When does everyone think we will start to see scheduling emails, or when our dealers will hear on scheduling? I know i ordered my 2024 on 7/17, and got the confirmation email from Ford on 7/18. And in their they have their "promise to you" that you would hear from them within 45 days. So i'm thinking that will be around Friday Sept 1. More than likely they will be scheduling on Thursday August 31. And supposedly on 10/2 they are starting production on the 2024. So just curious what others are thinking on when we will hear about 2024's being scheduled. The 2023 i ordered on 10/27 is finally being built this week. But i've already confirmed with the dealer that i won't be taking it, and will hopefully win the lottery on the 24 being built much sooner. I just can't wrap my head around taking delivery of a 2023 around Sept 1 and the 2024 will be produced a month later. That truck would be a model year old already. Depreciation would hit pretty hard, very fast. 23 i ordered was a F350 CC Lariat, Ultimate package, DRW, 6.7 HO Black on black. And basically ordered a 24, the same thing, but in a F450.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Got a text this morning at 7am from my salesman, one of my 450's was picked up at the railyard, and on a truck headed to dealership. I should have a picture of it by the end of the day. It's about a 4 hour ride by convoy from railyard to dealer. Once they inspect it, and add accessories to it, i'll set up a day and time to go pick it up.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Both of my 450 Lariats i ordered are built. One is shipped, and the other is awaiting shipment. I won't be taking one of them. The one that's already shipped, i won't be taking. It's a 2024 black 450, lariat, ultimate package, chrome package. 6.7HO, black leather. If your interested in it, i'll let you know the dealer its being shipped to.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Lariat Ultimate package, one of them has max recline seats. That one is in production, the other one has shipped
  5. blackduty

    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I got the text message and email at like 3:45 this morning that one of the two 450's i ordered shipped as well.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    450's come standard with 5th wheel prep, that's something they won't send offsite to install. It wouldn't be scheduled without having 5th wheel prep available for it. Now this morning, the tracker actually says "Built".
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    One of my ordered F450's has all of the modules listed, as well as has the "G" at the bottom. I spoke with salesman on Friday, and he said he looked into his orders on friday morning, and this truck shows as "built" but "sent offsite" which makes no sense, because there's nothing on this build that would require it to be sent offsite. So he mentioned he's a bit worried that it's not "completed", and missing something, like in 2021 when they all were missing some module or computer chip.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Yes, the plan prices are available. Your dealer just chose not to check the box and print them out.
  9. blackduty

    UAW Demands 46% Pay Hike

    I probably shouldn't be posting in this section, because i'm not an employee. But i will say this much. My family has always been loyal to Ford, and honestly will always stay loyal to Ford. No matter the outcome of the UAW contract. I have very close relatives that are currently employed by Ford, and retired from Ford. And to me, always being and staying loyal to Ford, feels in a way as though i'm helping to support my family. I've always been someone that does look a little beyond the product, into the people who are building that product. So by purchasing Ford, i'm doing my part to help insure my relatives continue to have employment. So as much as this strike isn't beneficial to the consumer, (i have a 2024 F450 on order, and concerns about it being built), this strike is beneficial to me as a person, because i do want to see my family taken care of. I've spent time over the past couple of weeks texting with my cousin who works at the Livonia Transmission plant, hoping he doesn't have to strike because the strike pay isn't very good. But also hoping demands are met so he can be in much better shape financially. He told me that after 2007, he didn't receive a raise for 12 years, and if the UAW hasn't given up COLA in 2007, he would be making $9/hr more right now, that's without any raises. So as a consumer, I do support this. I know first hand what inflation has done to me and people here, as well as people working in the auto industry.
  10. blackduty

    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Well, i think there's alot of things that have happened, to make this work out like it has. 1. 2023 order banks have been closed for a long time. 2. Some dealers probably haven't rolled unscheduled 23's over to 24's yet. 3. Possibility of some supply chains catching up. 4. 2023 was a whole new animal, with roughly 150,000 ordered in no time. I don't think there was near as many 24's ordered as quickly.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    They put me at a 10 on first day because i had ordered a 21 thru them, and it was sitting at a racetrack and they couldn't deliver it on time, and had no clue when i would be getting it. So i bought a 21 elsewhere. So they said they would put my 23 on a 10 from day 1. All of their other retail orders were at 19 or higher number. They were stumped as to why my Lariat never got picked up. Sales manager contacted their regional rep a couple of times thru it. Rep put it at a 02 in March and in July i got a VIN and build date for August. But i had told them in June i wasn't going to take it. I ordered a 24 on day 1 and they put it at a 03, and also had told the Rep what was happening, and she was going to step in and make sure this one got built in a timely manner. I know of a guy who ordered a 22, and has dealt with the same stuff from a different dealer. Ordered a 22 limited, then that was bumped to a 23, and now i think it's going to be a 24. I just don't think there's any rhyme or reason sometimes.
  12. blackduty

    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I also have doubts on that as well. My dealer put mine (2024 F450, CC Lariat, Ultimate package, DRW, 6.7HO, Chrome Package) as a Priority Code 03, since my 2023 F350 was a Priority Code 10 from day one and didn't get built until August, they put the 24 at an 03, and it was scheduled for the week of 10/2. I think Ford knows how to use the new PC system, and it picks up the code 03. I just think they might not be 100% truthful.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I got an email on my 24 F450 to be built week of 10/2. That's a 6.7HO, Lariat, ultimate package, chrome package, max recline seats. Got another email for a 450 i ordered from a different dealer, that truck will be built the week of 10/9. Basically same truck, except no max recline seats. The one scheduled for 10/2 was a priority code 03, the other was a priority code 19. Ordered a 23 F350 on first day, priority code 10... Took until mid July to get scheduled for August. Showed up at dealer on 8/23... Told them i wasn't taking it, and taking my chances on the 450. Smart move since i'm A plan, and wouldn't have been able to trade the 23 for the 24.
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    2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    September 7th is what i recently heard.
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I got a phone call and voicemail from my salesman this morning. They have a few that were ordered 10/27 and 10/28. To this point, no VIN's, nothing. Mine was even a 10 for a priority code. He said they pushed them thru to their ford rep, and should have a build date by end of the week. I haven't had a chance to call him back, but i probably will at some point today. I hadn't even called him or emailed him in 2 months. I had kinda decided that if i didn't have the truck by july 10, i was just going to order a 24 and not take this one. I guess i have a feeling it won't come as ordered. 350 DRW Lariat, ultimate package, HO motor, Black with black onyx interior. I just saw something yesterday, where someone posted that black onyx interior is another one of those items with limited availability. Ford rep might move it to a priority code 1 or 2, but if that's limited availabilty, it probably doesn't matter. It'll either get built with the wrong interior or still pushed back.
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    But, that forces people to order a vehicle from a dealer they wouldn't normally order from, just to have better odds of getting one because of allocations. Which is complete garbage. You walk away from your small, local dealer, to fly 600 miles away to pick up a truck, and then expect your local dealer to warranty your $90,000 truck, that you didn't purchase from them, that they made no profit on sales from, or anything like that. And then probably throw a temper tantrum when they don't push that $90,000 brand new truck in front of the line, over the local guy that bought his explorer from that dealer. Good luck keeping local dealers afloat. That sort of business model, is flat out not good for business, and is a disadvantage to certain dealers. My local dealer is the one that puts money back into our small communities. Big dealers aren't sending money 600 miles away to a small community because they sold someone from there a truck.
  17. blackduty

    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    You said exactly what i was thinking. Because i have saw plenty of trucks that were ordered in the March/April timeframe, built and shipped already, Spec'd out similar to 10/27-11/2 ordered trucks, but those early ordered trucks are lost in the stacks of papers because the dealer they ordered from doesn't have allocation this week or month. And now when they should be getting scheduled, they miss the boat on it, because now it's upfitter integration holding it back, or some other thing, that was installed into a truck 2 weeks ago, because that dealer had allocation. When they had the parts a few weeks or a month ago to build them, they just didn't because this dealer had an allocation, so let's build that one, even though the order was placed a week ago, and piss on the guy who ordered 6 months ago. The whole allocation thing should be scrapped.
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Just saw one on FTE where it went from ordered, to built in 18 days. Ford needs to get rid of their "allocation" system. And the way they schedule orders. Now, they have used up the HO option on so many later orders, that some early orders sit and wait, because that's a small percentage of new scheduled builds, because they used alot of them up recently. First orders in should get priority. They know how many of certain things they will order from their vendors. They also need to cross check orders. If someone orders 2 or 3 trucks from different dealers. Contact the person, tell them you get 1 as a Job1, and the others as Job 2. Take your pick, or you might only get 1 truck because it's a multiple order thru different dealers. There's so many people that have ordered 2 or 3 trucks, and just take whichever comes in first. That's a pretty crappy way to go about it. If it's an order for a business, fine, schedule them. A business could order 2+ trucks, and have a need for them. An individual won't, unless they are playing the game to get whatever comes in first. I'm not particularly saying this because i "need" a truck. I have a perfectly good 21, that i use when i need it. And whether i get a 23 or 24, i really don't care. I'm just saying this stuff, as i look at it from both sides. This stuff that's going on with Ford, is seriously hurting the company. You see it on here, on FTE, on facebook, and talking to others who you know that have ordered. It's flat out upset alot of people. I got a buddy that ordered a 22 limited, back in 21, and never got it. It was converted to a 23 by his dealer, and he hasn't heard boo.
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    No offense, but this is honestly the thing that really get's under my skin. Ford is balanced out on HO's. But yet, they will take a new order and build it, prior to guys who ordered on 10/27, making all of those wait longer. I've seen countless trucks ordered in 2-3-4-5 month of the year being picked up, scheduled, and majority delivered. But 10/27 orders are just "unscheduled clean"..... This ordering system needs to get changed to first in, first out. There will obviously be guys who ordered higher trim trucks, that won't get them because ford used up supplies on lower trim models that were ordered significantly later.
  20. blackduty

    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I would call that a very sharp looking truck. I guess on all of the facebook pages, guys complaining about the bed step need to have their eyes checked or re-evaluated. I don't see an issue with it at all. The white, with black wheels, that black step just blends in. Congrats, and enjoy it!
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I'm honestly thinking FoMoCo seriously hates me.... Ordered 10/27/22... First order submitted by my dealer Confirmation email on 10/31/22 First 45 day email on 12/15/22 Second 45 day email on 1/29/23 Been complete crickets since. Ordered a 23 F350 Priority Code 10 A-plan sale CC, DRW, 6.7HO Lariat, Ultimate package, Chrome Package, FX4 5th wheel puck system Moonroof Rapid heat 4.10 gears Black with Black leather. Switched to 3.55 Limited slip in January, and switched back to 4.10 limited slip a week ago. Ordered a 21, in 2/21... Truck was built May 13. Chip hold. Trucks built May 14 of that year had chips. Found a truck to "get by" with in July of 21. Wasn't what i wanted. But, 22's were being build. Truck i originally ordered was finally shipped to dealer in 9/21. Looked like complete dog crap. So glad i found something to "get by" with. Now, basically feeling like a guy is completely forgot about, really makes a guy question why he's been so loyal to ford. And i've owned more Ford vehicles than my wife and i have fingers and toes! Dealer i ordered from, doesn't even understand why it is the way it is. They have had multiple 23 fleet trucks come in, but mine just sits as "unscheduled clean". Told my salesman the other day, if i don't have it by Order banks opening for 24 MY, i'm just going to order a 24, and they can sell the 23 if it ever get's built.
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    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I think, as stated, a larger dealer might get more built in a week because of their allocation. Their allocation of total vehicles, and allocation of certain vehicles. The dealer i ordered mine from, was allocated 30 super duty's. Mine was the only priority code 10. So in theory, they might only get 22 of those 30 super duty's. Mine should be the first one picked from there. But, to this day, it hasn't been picked yet. It was their first super duty order submitted. But dealers with a much larger allocation, will get more built. And guys with a lower priority code than mine, at a much larger dealer, will actually be built before mine, because certain dealers have a much larger allocation, and for Ford to try and fill atleast 70-85% of the orders, a dealer that is allocated 500 super duties will get more picked every week, and possibly more with a lower priority code than mine. And possibly by the time mine get's picked, there could be commodity constraints. Which is why, i see no way possible for Ford to have all J1 trucks built before J2 starts.
  23. blackduty

    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Here's something that might help you understand better how it all works. I see this question a lot. So, I'll try to answer it (subject to corrections). It is largely determined by (1) dealer allocation, (2) order priority, and (3) component availability and (4) production capacity (part shortages not withstanding). Placing Your Order at the Dealership: Two (major) things affect your order once your dealer enters it into the system: priority order code and dealer allocation. Priority Code: Ford only schedules so many orders (from dealers) each week. As a result, each dealership has to determine what order (sequence) their truck orders should be picked up in. A holding queue for that dealership, if you will, with all the truck orders in a single line from which only one truck at a time can be released, is needed. Think of it as thread off of a spool or a print job from a printer queue. To do this, the dealer uses/assigns a priority code from 10 to 99 to each order. If your dealer prints your order or shows you the screen, you'll see it on there. While 10 is a lower numerical number, it is the highest priority order code a dealer can assign. Subsequently, while 99 is a higher numerical value, it is the lowest priority. Think of a priority order code the same way you would think of a college football player being "ranked" for an upcoming draft (1st is highest ranked, then 2nd, then 3rd, etc.). Until the orders are selected for scheduling by Ford, the priority order codes only apply internally at each dealership. Meaning, this is the order in which that the dealership will "release" the customer orders in when Ford asks for them. This allows the dealership to prioritize certain trucks AHEAD of other trucks, regardless of when the customer actually placed the order. That's why it pays to get the highest priority order code (lowest number) assigned to your order. Dealerships often (but not always) assign lower priority order codes (higher numbers) to stock orders while assigning higher priority order codes (lower numbers) to retail orders so you (a retail buyer placing an order) get your truck faster, which means they sell a truck faster. Before moving on, note that while the highest priority order code a DEALERSHIP can assign is 10, Ford Motor Company (the manufacturer) can assign a priority order code of 01 to 09. Essentially, Ford can decide if any particular dealer orders should be prioritized higher than "most" others. They often use higher priority to replace vehicles damaged during transport. So at this point, we have a list of truck orders for each dealer and the orders are lined up in the sequence that the dealer wants them pulled for scheduling based on their priority order code. I believe tiebreakers (same priority order code for more than one truck) are determined by the date/time the order was entered). Allocation: Ford allows each dealer to order a certain number of F150's per week. This is called dealer allocation. The number of trucks a dealership is allocated differs from dealer to dealer. One dealer may have an allocation of 10 trucks per week, while another might have 50 per week. Ford determines allocation for each dealer, largely depending on how many trucks that dealership is moving. Keep allocation in mind for later. How Orders are Picked From Order System (from the dealers) FOR Scheduling: On WED/THU of each week, the Ford planning system reviews all the orders at the dealerships to select which ones it is going to accept into the system for purposes of scheduling them to be built. It does NOT just take ALL orders and schedule them for build. Which sequence the orders are selected to come into the planning system is based on a combination of (a) round-robin dealership selection process (think of it as teams participating in the NFL draft) and (b) allocation (how many TOTAL orders (aka players) a single dealer can select during the entire draft (for the entire week). Here's the process, at very high level: Think of the selection process working like the "draft" process for major sports: Each team (dealer) gets ONE choice per "round" to send ONE order for planning, just like each team gets to select ONE college player per round. Round 1: Each dealership gets ONE choice. For each dealership, the truck with the highest priority order code (lowest number) within that dealership is selected. Once every dealer has had the opportunity to send ONE order for planning, its starts back over. Same order of teams, just a new round. Round 2: Each dealer, again, gets ONE choice. They send the truck order that had the next highest priority order code (lowest number) in their queue. Round 3, 4, 5 ... : It goes from round to round allowing each dealer to get ONE pick per round, and each dealer picking their highest priority customer order left in the queue. Now here's the tricky part: Remember dealer allocation? Dealers don't just get to keep submitting orders until every order they have has been sent for scheduling. This is largely due to capacity and material planning. Each week, each dealer will only have orders picked for scheduling until the dealer's number of orders selected reaches their allocation. For example, if a dealership's allocation is 10 trucks per week, that dealership will "cut off" from having more orders selected for scheduling starting in "Round 11". That dealership is done participating in the draft for that week. After allocation is met and a dealer is cut off for the week, the orders left over in that dealership's internal queue must now wait until NEXT week for the same process to begin. The very next WED/THU, the same process starts again: Round-robin, highest priority, next highest priority, etc., until allocation is met for that week, then no more for that dealership again until the following week. This is why it, if you're trying to order a vehicle that is in high demand, you should work with a dealer that has a very large allocation. They can order more trucks per week. It' less likely that your order will get held over until the following week (or weeks). Allocation is why some people on here have been waiting for several MONTHS just to see their truck get scheduled to be built, while other guys ordered much LATER, yet their trucks are already scheduled, built, or delivered. How Picked Orders are Scheduled for Build AFTER Ford Selects Them Each Week: Remember when I said that priority order code only applies internally? Well, that now changes. Now, the priority order code is a factor in determining which orders get scheduled before other orders across all dealership orders. Let's say that 15,000 orders for F150 trucks are selected to be scheduled for build. The order with the highest priority (lowest number) gets scheduled first. Lots of trucks have the same priority code, so the process generally follows a pattern of date/time the order was entered (selected during the "draft", which was based on the date/time the orders were entered). It's actually more involved then that, but that's it in a nutshell. Vehicles are first assigned to be built during a certain week (shows as a Monday date). As it gets closer to that week, the vehicles are assigned to specific build DATES (the day of). All of this is based on (and sometimes is affected later by) a variable plethora of variables, including material planning/component and part availability, plant production capacity and rates, the labor issues or weather causing delays or shortages, etc., etc.. Understand that trucks are not built in the order of the VIN number. A VIN is assigned before a truck is built. There are many factors that affect when a truck will be assigned to be built, but suffice it to say, they aren't in VIN order. As a consequence, the assembly plant needs a way to keep track of what order they WILL build the trucks in. If they didn't, they would not be able to ensure that the RIGHT parts are at the RIGHT places at the RIGHT times. Today, many components are shipped to the assembly plants either sequences (a specific component is going to be installed on one EXACT VIN) or they are shipped "just in time". The latter simply allows Ford to maintain a much smaller component inventory level. If you go back 15-20 years or more, they used to keep much more inventory on hand -- sometimes WEEKS. Carrying inventory costs money, and JIT reduces this cost. How they keep track of the build order is by what is called a BLEND number. Actually, it's a combination of a BLEND number and a ROTATION number, but that's not important. A blend number is nothing more than bank of numbers assigned in numerical order to a vehicle when it's scheduled. For the F150, it's ~10K numbers from 0001 to 9999 The trucks are built in order of blend number. 3456 is after 3455 and before 3457. Occasionally, an odd blend number will come along. If a vehicle build is put on hold at the last minute, simply re-insert it (same blend number) somewhere later. Hope this helps someone understand the order and scheduling process.
  24. blackduty

    2023 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    If you wanted certain options that were only available on J2, then your priority code should have been a 99. Not a 19. The 19 priority code, will not hold it back to give you the chance to add options for J2.
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    2023 Aftermarket Compatibility

    Don't get to carried away. I've saw guys that did that for their 21 or 22 MY trucks, and 2 of them didn't get their ordered trucks, and ended up selling their aftermarket accessories pretty cheap. Unless you aren't afraid to hold on to those parts for possibly a 24.
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