Lexus build a great car (I have owned 2 Lexus LS430s, an SC430 and my wife currently drives an 06 GS350) BUT it doesnt compete with Mercedes, BMW and Porsche for passion because it doesn't build high performance versions. Simple as that. I belong to a big name private golf course where at any point in time you can spot upwards of a dozen high end luxo-boats, AMG SLs, Continental GTs, M5s and M6s, Cayennes, A8s, Maybachs, etc and you hardly ever see a Lexus...period! Simply put, its the reason I got out of the LS...awesome car but a little too boring. People who can afford these kind of cars want excitement when they step on the gas, not just a smooth ride and a nice interior.