robertlane

Nice GT500KR. I worked at Shelby in Las Vegas during the build - one of our pool cars was a Torch Red GT500KR 0051, which I abused on a regular basis 🤩

From reading Telluride sites, the first year models have been plagued with a lot of problems (since were pointing out those found in the early Explorers). The exterior palettes between the Telluride and Explorer couldn't be more different.

There isn't a week that goes by that I don't see a Telluride on the road here in Fla. . .I saw two today. Although, the south is chocked full of imports. Going back to 2019, Ford sold 30,000ish +/- Explorer Police vehicles per quarter.

Lincoln has indeed been neglected for a long, long time. I spoke with someone at Ford about this four years ago and they centered it around Ford's desire to grow their Premier Auto Group (PAG), which consisted of Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo over Lincoln-Mercury. Ford hasn't been consistent with Lincoln and never desired for it to be a global brand like Audi, Lexus, BMW, etc. are.

The thing about those dinosaur Toyota products is that they've been proven out over time and offer a lot of reliability. I know many people here in Fla., that would never consider leaving Toyota and go back to purchasing anything else due to that reliability. What's the sales ratio of Ford Ranger vs. Toyota Tacoma fleet sales? I don't see Toyota truck products in government and rental fleets, however I see Ranger and Explorers stocked up at virtually every city government.

Another question: Will these former Ford passenger car owners opt into a CUV/SUV (Ford or other), or continue purchasing passenger cars? Other manufacturers (Asians and Germans) are adding new passenger cars and updating current ones, so they are for the moment choosing to remain in that market. Ford has to bank on the CUV/SUV demand not dipping - ever.

I think they were selling 30,000 Explorer Police units (does this figure include gov't Explorers too?) per quarter in 2019.

I understood that it was in October, just didn't have the 26th as the start date. Thanks for claifying that. Ford is bad about new model JOB1 and dealer fulfillments. Ford generally holds the first batches produced back many weeks - sometimes even months. I hope that's not the case for the Mach E.

Congrats on the Mach E order! I haven't seen a definite JOB1 start date stated as of yet.

Ford last broke out Explorer vs. Explorer Police Interceptor Utility in their Q4 2019 sales report.

I'd like to see the breakdown of Explorer retail vs. Explorer fleet sales. A lot of cities here in Fla. use the Explorer for police and government vehicles. Maybe Ford will see a bump in Explorer police sales due to the riots?

It appears in some circles that the Edge and Escape's future is predicated on the Bronco Sport.

I noticed the same thing about the Escape. I am not a fan of the redesign.

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Just as a note, Ford does NOT manufacture vehicles based on their VIN numbers sequentially. Thus VIN 8700 could be made before VIN 0013.