Savetheplanet Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I drive a Diesel but it gets 50 mpg. so Diesel is $4+ a gallon? Big frikin deal, you guys are a bunch of cry babies, $5 a gallon would still not be the REAL cost of gas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Boycotting is a legitimate strategy in a free country. It is better than government regulation. Personally, I can't see it working. There is too much demand for oil, and there are too many obstacles preventing more supply. There is the war, regulations concerning additives, lack of refineries, and environmental groups blocking new oil production. It could be that it is time to move on. Higher oil prices will lead to higher prices for everything. That means that the money you have in the bank will be worth less. Put your money into something that will hold its value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savetheplanet Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Diesel is selling for $4.94 outside of Yosemite Natl. park!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) This is reality---------->Within 10 years; probably less, someone, somewhere in these United States, will come up with something to run vehicles on besides oil. (gas diesel fuel) Or, they will come up with a synthetic for it. When this happens, I hope each and every one of you; democrats, republicans, and independents, stand with me on the day it is announced, face Mecca with a smile on our face, and give them the one finger salute. It will happen, and it will happen faster than you think. Of course, there will be wrangling with enviros some kinda way, and there will be big oil trying to keep you buying their products by lowering their profits along with the oil producers, but it is going to happen, and it will happen long before each of you forgets what it is like to drive American open roads. You do understand that there is already technology to do this don't you? It is just to expensive at this time as it is still in its infancy. But I will remind you to hearken back to cost when personal computers were in their infancy, or even when we thought they had reached a pinnacle like when Windows 95 came out, and processor speed was still so slow, one of the programs we use today woulda crashed the computer just by double clicking on it. While we are all upset, pissed off, and see no end in sight, I am here to tell you to plan your party. Once it comes to pass, our friends in the Middle East along with the oil companys will be lucky to get a buck a gallon with them in their burkas pumping it. I may not be able to tell you to have patience, but I can tell you to have confidence. The new technologys will drop in price with more research, and at the point they pass our greedy friends going the way we want the price to go, is the day that many of you say you want---------->that day my friends, the United States becomes self sufficient, and everyone else can go to hell, go directly to hell, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. P.S. Pay attention, and if you guess right on which method will be the one we move in to, invest in it. If you do, you will never, ever, have to work again!!!!!!!! Try and look at this differntly. Instead of looking at it as a dark cloud, look at it as an opportunity for you to make huge money by seeing what method will work. It will give you something to do on your puter, instead of contemplating how much you miss driving your car. Remember, they can't stop it. All they can do is rape ya for gas until something else comes along. I am shining up my middle finger at least once a week in contemplation of the day I can show Mecca my patriotism. Edited March 21, 2008 by Imawhosure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 You can also get price hikes from the idiots chosen to represent us. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,339589,00.html A Michigan congressman wants to put a 50-cent tax on every gallon of gasoline to try to cut back on Americans' consumption. Polls show that a majority of Americans support policies that would reduce greenhouse gases. But when it comes to paying for it, it's a different story. Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., wants to help cut consumption with a gas tax but some don't agree with the idea, according to a new poll by the National Center for Public Policy Research. The poll, scheduled to be released on Thursday, shows 48 percent don't support paying even a penny more, 28 percent would pay up to 50 cents more, 10 percent would pay more than 50 cents and 8 percent would pay more than a dollar. "I don't want to pay more, I don't think anyone wants to," said Karen Deacon, a motorist. "I think that wouldn't make any sense," said Frankie Hoe, a motorist. "Ugh ... who's making the money from all this and where is that money going? Is it going to go green? I don't see any green things anywhere." The automobile is the nation's biggest polluter; Americans use more gas than the next 20 countries combined. Some environmentalists and economists say pain at the pump may be bad for Americans, but good medicine for a sick planet. But others say it wouldn't change much. Even if Americans abandoned their cars, global emissions would fall by less than one percent. "A tax on gas is a way to reduce dependence on import oil, reduce traffic congrestion and reduce carbon emissions," said Lester Brown, president of the Earth Policy Institute. The Earth Policy Institute proposes raising the gas tax 30 cents per gallon each year over a decade and offset with a reduction of income taxes, Brown said. David Ridenour, vice president of the National Center for Public Policy Research, said the proposal wouldn't help long term. "I think when you are talking about raising gas prices, there may be short-term reduction, put off vacations, but bottom line is over long term, that isn't going to have much of an effect," Ridenour said. While Dingell's idea will likely lie dormant until after the 2008 election, the idea of carbon taxes is not. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain all support some type of system that either directly or indirectly will raise prices to penalize polluters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Exxon Mobil spent $16.9M lobbying Besides Congress, Exxon Mobil lobbied the White House, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, U.S. Trade Representative's office, the departments of Energy, Defense, Interior, State, Commerce, Homeland Security and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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