Sherminator98

I'd much rather have the GTDI I4 and AWD if its putting out numbers over 260 HP, plus you'll get better MPG out of it... Anyways getting off topic,most people shopping for an Sedan don't give a flying fuck about 1/4 times, and thats all the difference your going to see with having a 240 vs 268 HP engine...it doesn't make that big of a difference in every day driving. Its a pretty sorry state of affairs if people have to use an every day sedan to measure their penises with based on HP. I'd rather have a car that had 10-15 HP less then its competion if it got 2-3 MPG gallons better then that same competion. I believe your going to see the end of higher and higher HP numbers for better MPG ratings.

I find this statement somewhat Ironic...people on the net claim that Ford can't build a car to save their life, yet I seriously doubt that any car developed in the past 5 years has been a purely Volvo or Mazda engineered without one ounce of Ford input or design experance. Ford's problem isn't its engineering (well for the most part) but it lays in the way that products are developed for North America... Plus if Mazda was all that, why aren't kicking ass and taking name vs Toyota and Honda? People bitch at how "mediocre" the Fusion is from Ford, but they give a free pass to the 6, which doesn't sell anywhere the same numbers?

I dunno, this seems smaller then the current Escape, so not a true replacement for it.

besides that, what is Ford's justification that they don't include them? Boxer engines? :P

Those same people also like cutting down those same companies when they get too big also, just because

I saw my first Edge out on the Road yesterday...Orange one...looked pretty sharp even though it had salt all over it. I see an MKX every day now on my way into work every morning. I think the guy had a Aviator prior to because I used to see it all the time on the same road, plus it had DOD stickers on it like the MKX does. The one dealership up the street from me had an Orange Edge move with in a couple days of getting it, the Cream colored ones took longer or they just recently moved them...

Well dumping all that money into the Firestone Tire Debacle that was going on at the time seriously fucked Ford up, in addition to a whole bunch of stupid moves on Ford's part during that time.

Same goes for people who insistently bash Ford products here also... The truth is somewhere in the middle of the two camps

I heard it was a Tire Change that will improve the braking distances... As for white, they have an off white color called Cream Burle or something like that..looks much better in person then on the website, which is more of a dark cream color.

It gets vastly better mileage then any mid-sized SUV out there, esp out on the highway

Must be interesting working there and assembling cars that look like they've been hacked together for testing purposes.

Theres nothing written in stone that the S197 CAN'T be made into a Sedan...just a lack of willpower ATM

Strange thing, options are like assholes, everyone has one. I showed photos of the 08 SD to a former SD owner and a couple other people and they loved it. Even the reviewers like the looks of it. Guess final test is how sales are...

But will it really? Just having the Ford badge on it will make it inferior in most peoples eyes anyways...and thats already been proven by the Fusion...I can't find the damn article, but people rated the Fusion san Ford badges better when it was compared to the Accord and Camry, but once they where told it was a Ford, they rated the Accord and Camry better...

That's the thing I don't get, people mercilessly bash the Fusion here and often over the littlest thing, just because its a Ford product it seems like. I fail to see how bringing over the Monedo would do any better or having the Fusion lead in every conceivable category in its class would majorly change anything like it becoming the best selling mid-sized Sedan overnight. But I'm also saying the Fusion, as it stands now, is best Ford can do...it can use improvements and if Ford keeps making them and improving upon it, the car will be a success. Perhaps thats where the disconnect is....everyone has their own definition of what the Fusion success should be.

Looking back on this in 5 years, it would be really interesting see if Mercedes fails because of their take-over of Chrysler in 1997.

I dunno, the only thing that makes me say its not a Taurus X is the addition between the doors on it. Keep in mind it could be a Fairlane test bed with Taurus X sheetmetal.

Thats whats so cool about it...while it doesnt work that great on the E-series...it looks AWESOME on the Super Duty

Why? Thats just plain over kill for the car and the numbers they are looking at selling.

I saw on TV a Hyundai dealership listing a brand new 07 Sonata for 12K!

I didn't care for it at first, but I do like the way the Si Coupe looks, though I think the interior design is horrible looking with its bi-plane design. Much as I hate to say it, it looks better then the 08 Focus redesign (from the photos I've seen)

Its not necessarily a bad thing either...I'd much rather shop at Target then say Wally World with its dirty stores and crap quaitly products. At least Target is clean, has nice stuff in it and doesn't have much in the way of white trash in it.

Well the upside is the Camaro is sharing its platform with other sedans so it doesn't have to sell that well to be a success...

I wouldn't be too worried if I missed my sales goals by 2K units in one month. I'm sure that they'll be able to cover that no problem in the next few months..

This is the car that will crush your Camry in North America next year!