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Your missing some (most) of the dates. Anybody have the dates?

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Wow, you cans skim the highlights without knowing the true facts. That is all from the previous contract. Work that is already here. Nothing new! What about the impending doom of the FN transmission? What is replacing that? The mexican built powershift transmission.....Voting NO. There is nothing but bad in it for me.

I can't find a single reason to vote yes on this contract. There is not a single thing that benefits me.....this is nothing more than concessions round 3. What a joke. Keep your 6 grand. It will be an extremely vocal NO vote! (Im good where Im at)

I did twice, and honestly they both sounded American to me.

Why does it take Ford Credit so damn long to send a lien release after the vehicle has been paid off? 3 weeks? Seriously? Absolutely no reason it can't and shouldn't be done by the next business day. That is just piss poor customer service.

I dont understand that one. I see them sitting on dealer lots up here.

HelloE, You first need to get your facts straight. 2nd You need to learn the roles and responsibilities of your elected and appointed union reps. I highly doubt you want to go tit for tat concerning manpower on this public forum considering you have no idea what you are talking about. How many trades are laid off at this plant? Enough said.

Please come forward with all your great knowledge and explain to everyone what exactly it is you or anyone else would have changed, deleted, or added to the local contract that would benefit the membership. I can give you quite a few examples of changes that management wants but they surely wont benefit the membership. Why would you have anything changed if nothing good can come of it? That is just pure stupidity!!!

Got a guy from Nashville Glass too. Not sure where all the Carpenters came from.

Zone bumping is not national seniority. Do you honestly not know the difference? You skip most of your union meetings while telling everyone else they should show up. I honestly dont give a shit if you ever show up to a union meeting. However, you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house. You should also quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Do you even know which side of your mouth your talking from? First you vote for National Seniority in the poll. Then you say the current rules are more fair. Then you flip back to National Seniority. Then back to the current rules. You want to speak to others about attending union meetings, yet you admittedly skip most of your own. You have the "do as I say not as I do, whatever way I can personally benefit most, fish out of water flip flop flip flop" mentality.

This does not protect seniority employees, it protects low seniority that happen to live in a different zip code. What part didn't you understand when I said it actually benefits me? With this rule in place I am virtually guaranteed that I can't ever be forced out of state. Unlike yourself, I actually believe in doing what is morally right and fair for EVERYBODY. Get rid of the rule completely or go full National Seniority. I bet you have tshirts that say: (UNITED WE STAND, BY ZONE) The membership didn't vote this in. This rule was a pork barrel rule slipped in with the modifications to the 2007 agreement. Put it to a vote in a stand alone ratification vote and see how it does. I guarantee it fails MISERABLY! It is not an opinion. You are WRONG, as this is a rule that is complete BS. I understand how the union operates. I am sure I attend more union meetings than you do. It is your own people calling you out for skipping most of them, and you not only admitting to it but trying to justify it.

You are quite wrong, the rule actually DOES benefit me. With the current zone bumping rules, it makes it virtually impossible for me to be forced out of state. That still does not make it right. NOBODY should be forced out of their job if they are not low seniority, regardless of what damn zone they are in. So like I said move along.

You obviously dont listen to common sense or reason, so why continue to converse? Move along and skip a few more of your union meetings.