We have lots of platforms, stairs, etc, that have been made by our Millwrights and Welders. A lot of the welds look like they came out of a shotgun. Hell, they even built a railcar unload building not once, but twice (wind blew the first one down because they didn't install any wind braces, duh). If anything needs to have certified welds, it won't be done in house. I think our only welder who is certified now has an appointed job. Don't get me wrong, we do have a few very good welders, it's just they are not all certified.