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J-150

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  1. On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 2:36 PM, tbone said:

    It’s a cool little town in a box canyon in Colorado. I’ve skied there a number of years ago. Apparently it’s Kia’s attempt to cash in on images of the old rugged west. I like the name, but not on a Kia.

    So it's a Canyon in Colorado and the name DIDN'T go on a pickup.

     

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, akirby said:

     

    Geez, nobody said that hasn’t happened in the past or that it will never happen again.   The question is how much of a premium are they willing to pay?  Big difference between a $3K premium and a $20K premium.

    Agreed. IMO, GM screwed up with the Bolt and Volt by not amortizing the engineering across enough years and total volumes.  Those price tags were not reflective of just increased manufacturing cost.

  3. 10 hours ago, silvrsvt said:

     

    But there are more factors then just that-Diesel has lost any cost advantage over gas engine due to fuel cost, upfront cost and additional maintenance costs.

    I was poking around with pricing-The Bolt starts at 40K and a Cruze starts at 23K..to get the same options, a Cruze would be 26K. 
    The federal tax credit helps close the gap in pricing, but your still paying $9K more for a Bolt, which is a smaller car then the Cruze.

    https://www.truedelta.com/Chevrolet-Bolt-EV-vs-Chevrolet-Cruze-price-comparison,1369-1008,2018&pc=6583229&price_feature=3&personal_feature=

    The other issue, is that according to Fuel Economy.gov, your only saving $550 a year or so going electric vs gas
    https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=39786&id=39143

    So that extra $9K up front can pay for roughly 7-8 years worth of gas for the Cruze...

     

    Right. No argument here.

     

    But it is still fact that over the previous several decades, millions of cars were sold with premium cost on an engine to get better fuel economy.

     

    Whether it's still cheaper is irrelevant. People have shown they are prepared to pay a premium.

     

    Not to mention people that paid premiums for ecoboost engines...

  4. 1 hour ago, akirby said:

    Building up that type of infrastructure with enough batteries for everyone and the hardware to change the battery pack is an enormous undertaking and expensive.

    Getting all manufacturers to build their vehicles using the same modular battery packs would be even harder.

    Building a national network of 5 minute charging stations, on the other hand, will be easy and low cost 

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