daddydave1970

I went and turned my badge in Sept 18th and I checked the website and I still have 4 a-plan's and 3 x-plan's left. I am not going to use any, but if I were to use one, I would call program headquarters first.

Hey Twincam, long time no hear. How is life treating you? As for me, I went to hourly personnell and signed my buyout paperwork and turned in my badge. Best of luck to all.

You really should check your facts, here is what they can take, PERIOD. 1. Any debt owed to the company, this only entails you being over-paid or having to pay back something like putting people on your insurance that do not belong. 2. An income withholding order, which is what they attack your taxes with. This includes child support also. You also sound like keeping insurance on your children is something new. I was doing this before I worked at Ford, and I will keep on doing it when I receive my buyout check.

I have never been one to chime in on someone's rant, but you, sir are misinformed. Let me point out a few things to you. A. The buyout is NOT over a two year period, it is given in one lump sum. B. There is no 1099, it is all on your REGULAR W-2( if you make 45,000 on the line and 100,000 on the buyout, this equals 145,000. C. I happen to go to a tax professional every year(not a tax service) and if you claim the right amount of deductions, have a mortgage, tax writeoffs, etc., you WILL get more of the buyout money back in the form of taxes. D. It is easy to target the government for a company's shortfalls, just like it is easy to drop your trousers and take a leak in the street. Ford and the UAW are realizing the dire straits this company is in, and they are working together(for a change) on turning this company to profitability again. Should we start pointing fingers? NO! We should all try to get this company back to the top.

I am in that exact situation. Here is what I was told by the work comp dept. A buyout is between you and Ford Motor Company, work comp claims are separate issues. My attorney told me the same thing, taking the buyout will not affect my settlement one way or the other. Hope this helps. Dave GO CHIEFS!!!!

Hey Capt. How is the family doing? I haven't been posting much lately. Maybe you can answer a question for me, how long did it take for the guys at St Louis to get the checks for 100K? If I remember right it only took them a couple of weeks to get theirs. Just curious, I was informed last night that they are going to try to have all the buyouts done by October 1st. One other question, How is the recovery from surgery going? I know it was a somewhat slow process for me, but I feel alot better now.

pm me and let me know where you are

Don't forget, give me a buzz, and I'll have you over for "adult beverages". If anyone from St Louis gets over to Truck Paint, let me know.

The first two "waves" of people going were supposed to take care of our over-manning problem, the lists are supposed to be posted two months at a time. The next few months of posted buyout lists will see the same amount of buyouts as St. Louis people coming in. After they have awarded all of the packages that cover the amount of St Louis personnel who come into the plant, then they will have a manpower meeting to see if they can let more people go. That is just what my "source" told me, hope it helps Dave

They are the "leadman", they give bathroom calls and cover people who have to go to medical.

This was posted on the Local 249 Website, just thought everyone should know. http://www.local249.org/breaking_news.htm Seems like the union wants to keep the membership informed, somewhat, anyhow I just thought some of the St. Louis folks might want to know, as well as the folks in KC who signed up for a buyout. On and on the cycle goes. Hey Capt, I lost your phone number because I am an absent minded idiot. Pm me, we are planning to visit some relatives over shutdown in the Loo. I told my wife that I wanted to take the Anheuser Busch tour about 30 times and call it a vacation, but she disagreed. Women, can't live with em, can't kill em because of all the advances in criminal technology. Anyhow, was gonna stop by and say hi if that was ok with you.

Good post, I have a suggestion, and I know for a fact that some high ups read the Blue Oval News. After the St Louis people get to KC, and get trained on jobs, look at the buyout list and see how many people you have left. Take that number and get exactly that many TPTs. Take the TPTs and train them on the jobs of the people left on the list. Give the buyouts to the rest of the people. You have now accomplished two things. 1. Saved the company alot of money(19hr+no benefits vs. 28+benefits) 2. You have raised morale and quality(there will be no people with a bad attitude because they were denied a buyout).

The doctor took the drain out before I left the surgery center. I will tell you this, it is a long recovery process when they do that type of surgery. Physical therapy out the ass!! The problems that I used to have, dead arm in the morning, problems driving, stuff like that are gone. I just learned a new job and the soreness in my right elbow region took ALOT longer to go away. Hope this helps. Just out of curiosity, how many Slappers stayed on layoff, gen pool?

I can definately understand your feelings, I don't know if I met you when I was in Ohio, but all of the people at Lorain were wonderful. Best of luck.

Did you get the pm I sent you back? Dave

If you pm me, I can tell you where you are in your department.

The last day to sign up is May 31st. The number of people signed (as well as the number of packages being offered) is in a sealed vault buried beneath Fort Knox under the protection of the 101st Airborne Division. In other words, it's just like everything else Ford does, ONE BIG SECRET!!! :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet:

I am going to print this out and check out all of these places, especially "Grants Beer Farm". I sure did enjoy the Budweiser tour. I am getting thirsty just thinking about it. :happy feet: :happy feet: Once again, I totally appreciate the "Eastern Missouri Hospitality". I will check all these places out and try to plan a couple of days to go there. Every little bit helps, I just want to take the kids and the wife on an enjoyable vacation. Thanks for the info!!!

What sucks worse of all is signing up and not knowing if the packages are going to get down to you. By the way, just curious, my kids want to go back to St Louis this shutdown, we went to the zoo, six flags, and the anheuser busch tour last time. Any other suggestions? We also ate at White Castle and daddy got indegestion, but the kids thought the little burgers were great. We will be staying in O Fallon with relatives, just wanted some decent family places to go for fun. Thanks, Dave

There are alot of factors involved, at least that is what I assume. You are 100% correct, the numbers don't jive, but I am sure the union is trying to keep the "overstaffed" number as low as possible. While I understand that they are trying to keep numbers of personnel up, if we go through all of this buyout process and are still over on numbers, there will be a layoff. I personally say, if the company wants to give out 800 packages, let them, if they run short every day on people, oh well. Just my two cents.

We have a visteon plant here in KC. Some of those people are still Ford employees even though the companies split. Now they are trying to get the people who are Ford employees into the assembly plant. That is all I have heard, I am not too sure on the details of how this works. Not to worry, I am pretty sure enough people will sign up to get all of you here.

Well, the frustration has set in. Last night when I asked my committeman how many signed up, his reply was "I don't know". When I asked him a couple of other questions, same response. I felt like asking him "Did your parents have any children that lived?" Probably would have gotten the same response. OK, enough of the venting, all you Slappers should know some concrete information in June sometime. Our sign up ends May 31. Anyhow, I did find out some juicy info for all the KC people. The company has told the union that we are approximately 350 people over on rolls. That is double what I had thought before. When my committeman told me 350 over and 50 flowbacks from visteon as well as the 400 from St Louis, I felt like I needed a second opinion, so I asked another committeman, and I got the same response. By the way, I can confirm that they are going to fill all the holes left by packages with the non promotional, and then all of the transferrees get what is left. :banmolest: I think that banmolest is some funny shit!!

I am pretty sure he/she can be that ignorant. All you have to do is look at the source.......seems like a pretty "limp" topic. (ineedviagra)

I don't neccessarily deserve a buyout, but I did sign up for one. I for one would rather have a bird in the hand versus two in the bush.

Brad, Thanks for the kind words, I am truly sorry for the loss of your brothers and sisters at SLAP. On a more positive note, if you and yours decide to come to this side of the state, my wife and myself want your family to come on over for a real barbecue.