Why does everyone think that 30,000 people are going to get laid off? When they announced the revitilization plan in 2002 we had 170,000 hourly and salaried workers in north america, now, four years later we have 124,000 workers. In four years they shed 54,000 jobs. This new plan states that the jobs will be eliminated by 2012, thats 6 years from now. Half of the skilled trades workers are eligible to retire. Most of the jobs lost will be thru attrition. I feel for the low seniority worker at plants that will close, because they will get laid off for some time but they will be back. I don't have much seniority either, only 5 years, but I'm in the trades I think that I should be safe. If the old guys would just retire. There are guys at our plant that have 40+ years. From Woodhaven! Good luck to all!!