rod_burner

I personally don't see a problem with Bill's salary. Some people seem to have forgotten that it is his family name on the front of the building. If it weren't for his great-grandfather, none of us would be where we are today. The rest of the execs are WAY over compensated though.

I asked about this engine program a couple of months back and someone from dearborn engine posted that they had heard about the program and that it was to be built in lima.

I spoke to the girl in HR today and she told me that TAP is only reduced for unemployment benefits you are recieving. If you are working and not drawing unemployment, then TAP is not reduced.

We were told locally that TAP is not reduced, as a matter of fact is was told to us at the info meeting on the March 09 concessions, by chuck browning, that TAP is not reduced for income from a job. If yours is being reduced, better check in to it. I'm gonna make some phone calls tomorrow.

I was reading through a copy of the March 09 agreement I found here on BON. The way that I understand it is that the TAP is not reduced for any income from a job, but if you are still recieving unemployment, they reduce your TAP benefit for that, or am I wrong?

What is the percentage the TAP once your regular sub benefits run out? I am thinking that it is 50% of 40 hours, is that correct? I am also of the understanding that they do not reduce your TAP benefit for any other income you earn, correct?

Where is Local 182??????

I was talking to someone I know that works at Lima Engine Plant and they told me about a new engine program, a 2.7L V6 engine. Apparently the local union in Lima is telling their membership that if they vote to accept the concessions agreement, they are assured the new V6 engine line. Is anyone from any of the other engine plants hearing about this program going to Lima or is it also being promised to other plants as well, just to "sell" this new POS concessions agreement? I was also told that the local union in Lima is saying that through this agreement, "no trades jobs will be lost". I call BS on that one.....

I heard a "rumor" over the weekend that both Indy and Sandusky were come back under the blue oval. Can anyone verify this info?

As I was reading through this thread, the only real GEN rules that people have talked about are in-zone transfers. Let me add something else for people to think about. Under the current national agreement, people in GEN can be utilized for "nontraditional" jobs. Think about this: What is "nontradional" for a tradesman??? Sitting on an assembly line.... I think that GEN language will be structured so that employees in a protected status can/will be utilized on jobs "nontraditional" to their job classifaction. Think about it. If you have 50 tradesmen sitting in GEN and you have 10 people retire, the company, under these new rules could effectivly use 10 tradesmen out of the GEN to fill the openings, as opposed to transferring in 10 employees from other plants or even hiring. This system could be used until all employees are out of the GEN and working in their respective job classes. Then the company would look at transfers and/or hiring.

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybri...News&rpc=44 I found this article on Yahoo finance and found it kind of confusing. On page 1 they talk about us taking a 20% wage cut and a cut in our benefits. And then on page 3, it talks about Ford holding the line at 2% wage increases due to increases in productivity and and falling "real labor costs". I'll admit that I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, so could some one please explain to me what this means..... Also, I hope the link works, not very good at posting links. If it doesn't, would some one please fix it for me. Thanks.

I think that Ford is very aware of the possible quality issues. That's why I think that Ford will only allow a small portion to actually go on Jan. 1. They'll need time to train temps, flowbacks, etc. to minimize quality concerns. If you remember in the buy-out info it said, "no later than Sept 1". I think the company will use this time period to train people, or at least they will if they're smart.... But we all know how that is.

The media is reporting that Ford is saying that 38,000 hourly people have accepted buy-out packages is year, this includes 8,000 from previous offers earlier this year. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061129/ford_buyouts.html?.v=3 All major media outlets are reporting the same thing, I found this link under Yahoo finance. I wonder what the actual number will be after everything is said and done?????

The thing that made me pose this question is the fact that recently we had a "state of Ford Motor Co. meeting" and the plant manager got up and was telling us that Ford has less than 20 billion in cash. The plant manager also said that if things don't change for the company real fast that by sometime next summer, Ford might have trouble making payroll. I read an article, I wish I could remember wher, that said the company wide buy outs was going to cost Ford between 2 and 3 billion dollars. If Ford is going broke, where are they getting this extra 2-3 billion dollars from to pay for all these buyouts???? I asked our local union and wasn't given a very clear answer, no suprise there... I just would like to know if somebody else might know the answer to my question.

Has anyone bothered to ask where the money is coming from to pay for the buyouts??? Is it coming solely out of Ford's pocket or is our union turning over the gen and sub funds to the company to help them pay for all of this???? Last I heard, there was about 600 million in each fund. I was wondering about this because it may have some bearing on ALOT of people that opt not to take a buyout.