eddiehaskell

By effective, I mean - it gets the point across. They can spend a million on a 30 second commercial with special effects, a director, perfect mountain scenery, actors, etc, etc, or park the car beside a BMW and say our cars does this and that better for $15k less. IMO, the latter is just as effective.

Exactly. I just saw the G8 vs 5 series commerical. It's a simple commercial where they mention that the G8 is faster and gets better gas mileage. Simple but effective, IMO.

Umm, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what they're doing. The mini cooper is a tiny car. The Escalade is huge SUV that gets better gas mileage than a mini (who cares if they cherry picked a certain trim). Thus, they are trying to make people think "Wow, GM can build a big ole SUV that gets better mileage than that tiny little car - that's pretty cool." It's not the best commercial ever, but it certainly isn't the worst. :rolleyes:

Sounds like a lot, but not surprising when you consider the Camaro is a new car with performance comparable to the GT500 (3900lbs). IRS also adds weight over a stick axle.

The V6 Camaro is about 200lbs heavier than the GT with the same HP.

It surprised me too...I think Ford used to include destination in the price, but with the new website layout it isn't..

That doesn't include destination which is $800. So $3420 price difference. Yeah, the SS is heavier, but it also has an extra 122hp, IRS, better weight balance, 20" wheels, Brembo brakes and a stronger 6-speed trans. The SS is more comparable to the GT500 than than the GT. Luckily it's a lot cheaper.

If you want to correct someone, at least try to be accurate. http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/200...ng#page=/Style/ Ford Mustang GT MSRP $27,570 Ford Mustang GT Premium MSRP $29,520 Base Camaro SS = $30,995....$3400 more than a GT. Thanks for playing.

Equally equipped, a 2SS Camaro is about $3000 more than a GT.

$3500. The Camaro has 122 more HP. If the engineers are correct, the SS will only be about 0.2 second slower to 60 mph than a GT500. The Camaro also includes a more sophisticated suspension setup, brembo brakes, 6 speed trans, etc.

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet...amp;docid=49453

Why compare the Camaro and G8? They don't compete with each other. One is a 4-door sedan and the other is a pony car. The engine in the G8 GT is perfectly fine. 362hp in a full size sedan for around $30k is a deal. The Camaro needs a more powerful base V8 because it's in a more competitive segment with the Mustang and Challenger.

I don't care about the Z28 either. As I said, I'll take an SS over the GT500...no need for a Z28.

Eww Mullets! The Camaro will never appeal to the sophisticated high class Mustang crowd:

And here is Scott Settlemire response tp that article: (question asked by another poster) Scott's response: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.p...98796#post98796 UHHHH OHHHH!!!! Get Tommy Servo a nappy...him just soiled his panties!!!!!!