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You realize the greenhouse is the beltline up, right? How does Aviator draw from Range Rover? Range Rover's roofline is squared off, Aviator's is a single flowing swoop. And the surfacing details are completely different on the bodies. And yes, I brought up belt lines, and trim pieces because those add to the similarities between this Infiniti and the Aviator.

The way it tapers is similar, but yes, most vehicles are like that - but the inclusion of the chrome roof rail, and chrome beltline trim and upper window trim that terminates at the spoiler is similar. Maybe slightly. Hard to tell. The RR is squared off. They look nothing alike.

Good question - might depend on if they fit. Maybe with a redesigned center console they'll be able to fit them in there?

I don't get this complaint - most of us said we like the design. There's a particular element - the greenhouse - that looks similar to the Aviator, and we pointed that out. Also, with Lincoln's former head designer now being Nissan's NA design director makes it not overly surprising there are some similar elements. Plus, in general, all brands are pulling cues from other brands (the full width lightbar is perhaps the biggest one these days, and I hate that companies with no history of it are using it in a "me too!" manner). Uh, no. It's the replacement for the QX60.....hence the QX60 name....... (The QX60 was the former JX - their 3 row FWD crossover. For some inexplicable reason, it got the QX60 name, while the smaller FX got the QX70 name.

Well, perhaps the bigger advantage of the skateboard is that it is designed from the get-go to accommodate batteries, so you don't wind up with cases like the Fusion energi hybrids that had the giant chunk taken out of the trunk for batteries. You can obviously design an ICE platform to account for batteries too, but usually not the amount you need for a full EV without compromises.

How? Range Rover uses more squared off styling/roofline, Aviator has more flowing lines and roofline.

I don't mind the design, but you could slap any manufacturers' badge on there and it wouldn't look out of place.

I do agree a lot of the products are nice but boring looking. And no I don't want origami styling with creases everywhere, a la Lexus and Hyundai.

Seems like a waste of a factory for 50k units. What happens Sunday?

How about a Mach E GTE50?

It’s a great implementation of the split light look

Interesting on the penalties - I wonder if those apply even if the customer just doesn't like it when it comes in and decides not to take it? That's not the dealer's fault.

I thought Mach E was Hermosillo too. I'd imagine they'd want to put something else there too. Unless they truly project it taking off longer term once they work out supply constraints?

What ever happened with Cuatitlan or however it's spelled that made the Fiesta? What's going there?

How dare you think logically! lol But then they can't "give back" to their donors lol

California would outlaw it as horse abuse or something. Or maybe say the horse has too many emissions.

I agree - they've made some strange interior designs. 100% - first thing I thought as well.

The Rivian truck looks like it'll be a good product.

Exactly why I picked it.

Except I'm marketing it as a Kia Soul type product that is small but has some style to it. Not as complete appliance. I think that's how you get people in.

It's California - they don't need to make sense. Um. We already discussed that earlier - rainbows and unicorn farts. I don't think any of us don't think it'll happen, or necessarily have a problem with it. The problem is the timetable and the realities of that. And not only that, the bigger problem is perhaps the infrastructure for it.

I like it overall, though I usually hate the license plate in the bumper with a massive blank expanse on the back hatch (see Jeep Cherokee for another example).

OMG, I honestly didn't even notice that.

And I'm not saying we can't do better environmentally (cleaner air, water, etc is good for everyone), but the demands and prohibitive regulations requiring EVs for everything in 15 years when they're already having problems NOW with the power grid just seem out of touch (but I guess it is California we're talking about). You can have a goal, sure, but.....

I'd have no problem with Ford "2-pronging" the segment with the sporty/swoopy Puma, and keeping the EcoSport more upright and utilitarian (i.e. more skewed toward the Bronco side of things without being a Bronco).