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I do think they make a mistake in not having the backup camera take up more real estate on the display in some fashion.

I look at it more in the sense that the camera is already there for the 360 view system, why not also use it for blind spot viewing? Remember, not everyone has the mirrors angled properly (a camera would be fixed in the correct view on the mirror), and may not pay attention to a blinking light (counterintuitive, I know). Again, if it's already there, why not use it?

I think the "easy" way to do a Lincoln based on Bronco would be: 1) all new body panels and interior for a completely unique look 2) a jeep Skytop like setup where the shell is permanently in place (with additional sound deadening and interior panels to cover it all), with a retractable glass roof (fabric wouldn't work for a Lincoln)......the doors would probably no longer be removable as well, as you'd want additional sound deadening in them, meaning thicker, heavier doors. The question would be whether you could get the quality needed for a Lincoln product, and "hide" the bones well enough.....I'd imagine it'd be difficult to restructure the roll cage in a more normal layout for a product like this, plus that'd add a lot of extra cost for something that would sell 1-2k per month, in line with other Lincoln models. Yeah, I think there still are some "real" articles there, but you can tell the fake ones that all use the same format. Their clickbait article titles like "New model XYZ: 4 reasons to love it, 2 reasons to avoid" or "new model xyz: here's what you should look at instead" are stupid too. Yeah, I can't understand why they have so many issues....I think part of it just the height of the windows (for the rattling issues when opening the door or going over bumps with it partially opened. But there are definitely some goofy things with the programming....I have to reset a window (often the passenger rear door, but sometimes the driver door) every few months because it forgets to do the drop feature and then closes improperly. I have a permanent tab open on my phone with the procedure to reset them. You didn't understand his suggestion. He was suggesting instead of doing a ton of effort to completely redo Bronco to make it "Lincoln worthy" with a fixed roof, to just start with Everest as a starting point, since it's already fixed roof/a normal body structure.

It's nice to see that Ford is jumping on the bandwagon of using the camera for blindspot monitoring: On a related note, I saw my first 2025 Expedition at lunch today and it looks good, but looks very tall/upright from behind with all styling elements being vertical and narrow. The random lights in the liftgate still look tacked on/unintegrated.

I'll stand corrected on 0-60 times, as I was thinking many products were lower than 8 seconds, but some are right around there....... I just feel that people have different expectations these days, especially when they hear EV, they think "fast". We'll see how it does, but I'm skeptical. I didn't say I hate it.....I like the concept of it, I just think at $28,000 (remember, not everyone will qualify for the full $7,500 credit), it's priced high considering it has a fraction of the equipment of other cars. Maverick debuted at $29,995 and came with much more equipment than this does (yes, prices are higher now, but still). I think this is getting a bit of rose-colored glasses treatment because it's "'Cheap' EV".

You're missing the point. I'm not saying don't offer other models. I'm saying slapping a Mustang badge on anything and everything is going to get old. A sedan that's basically just the coupe with 2 extra doors, sure. But throwing it onto an additional mid engine model, and 3-4 other models is excessive.

It'll be interesting to see how this does. I'm skeptical, as it seems like when cheap stripped down versions of vehicles are offered, they don't sell much. The customization options are neat, but as has been mentioned, once you start adding "normal" features to it, the price is likely to shoot up into the pricepoint of other "real" cars... I will say, a few years ago, my brother bought an old late 90s early 2000s stick shift Ranger for a couple grand with the intention being for he and I to learn how to drive a stick (my dad is rebuilding an old Jag E-type and put a manual, so this was an easy/cheap way to learn stick).....it was cheap so we didn't care about it a ton....but there was something fun about just hopping in and not really caring about anything or needing fancy equipment. But I don't know if you'd want that forever, if that makes sense? It could be fun in that sense, but even so it's till 20k after tax incentives.

Nothing more sport truck than a vehicle that takes 8 seconds to get to 60 lol.

Eh, I don't know if I love the idea of slapping Mustang on everything.

The video version may go more into it and "deflate" an inflated headline, but I haven't had a chance to watch.

I don't understand the chart in that report.... When considering your next car purchase what are you most likely to choose.....trucks are at 9% in 2023 and 7% in 2024.....yet make up a massive chunk of the market? How does that make sense?

FWIW, Borg's latest "intel": Things around the Ford 3-Row are starting to solidify and it's basically what I expected, a C2-based EREV. Also working on a new C2 PHEV (already knew about this one because of NG Kuga). C2 is the platform that basically underpins everything at this point at Ford and Lincoln, excluding the 3-Rows today which are CD6. I'm not certain this replaces CD6, but I have to think so since it gives them all the powertrain flexibility they need from ICE to HEV to PHEV to EREV. That's an incredible range right there. It also means they can get the performance model out of the EREV, although I have think that's a unique challenge. This feels like a sustainable approach so I'm optimistic. I suspect it's still going to involve a complex re-engineering of the platform so it's not really a short-cut. I still don't have any insight on Lincoln variants, but at least they have the platforms to work with and local production.

But that's the point - work to make the products you're putting in those segments more compelling and unique, rather than endlessly throwing in the towel.

Ah, I didn't see any new news on it. BUT....given it's Tesla, they could show it tomorrow, and it wouldn't be out for another 3 years.

Ford. Ford is stopping itself lol.

Tesla to Delay New Affordable EV, But Goes All-in on Robotaxi Launch Three sources with knowledge of Tesla’s plans to manufacture a new, more affordable electric vehicle (EV) have shared that the automaker is delaying its US launch of the budget-friendly model, according to a Reuters report. Tesla initially planned to produce a $25,000 EV, but internal messages and meetings at the company confirmed Elon Musk decided to axe the effort during Q1 2024 to focus on its Robotaxi, which is still scheduled for a June release.

Interesting story - probably one of the higher ups' car. Also, it's the Yorktown, not Lexington....

I actually didn't mind the current gen model. This turns it ugly again.

The original 2 door comment mentioned both truck and suv. keeping the 2 door for the SUV has to be a cost-saving measure to maintain the common parts with the truck.

"Luckily", it'll go unnoticed because 1) there's no substance to the "announcement", and 2) Lincoln doesn't get much attention anyway...

Mustang I agree with - I think it'd be good for the brand to have a single sedan offering, even if it doesn't sell a ton. Regarding a Bronco Lincoln, I don't really see what that would add, though it would give them additional product.....I think to do it right, you'd have to rebody the entire thing and make a full solid roof version of it (no removable hardtop). If they're just going going to slap a new grille and dash on the existing Bronco, it'll absolutely fail, IMO. For the roof, If they don't want to completely reinvent it, I guess they could try to offer some sort of skytop setup with a fixed roof with sliding center panels (maybe glass panes?) on the existing setup with more sound deadening and interior panels? I disagree with Aviator - Aviator is better than Caddy's efforts in the segment. That said, they can't just let it languish as they tend to do, and need to keep pushing forward, which they don't do. Navigator is just a heavy refresh of the current model, though, and while touchpoints all changed which the average buyer wont notice, people who know, know. As several of us have suggested, Louisville should've become a "mega" C2 plant, producing Escape, Corsair, and adding Nautilus and a new Edge, with the CE1 BEVs going to BOC until additional production is needed/warranted.

New Lexus ES Drops The Grille And Embraces Electrification | Carscoops There are hybrid and EV versions. We'll see which ones we get.

I think it's a double-edged sword too, though. Sure there are more enthusiast products, but they're also increasingly ignoring the core segments and dropping products. As pointed out above, hopefully CE1 can come out with some new products that allow Ford to reenter some segments it's abandoning.

As @akirby said, I'm guessing that's the way for them to keep it cheap - 2 fewer doors, seats, windows, etc etc.....the old "sure we can make it cheap, but that'll remove features x,y,z that you say you want." It also looked like the design allows them to effectively slap a cap on the back to become the SUV (presumably removing the bulkhead, of course).

Or, maybe that's why she was shown the door ("retired") because that was her big plan?