Herd it from my wifes second cousins,bestfriends,sisters.Who has a friend whos brothers best friends little sisiter is an engineer.See where this is going. everyone has an opinion and people like to talk and say things that are not true. Is Cleveland perfect probally not. Is Lima perfect not even close. Look at what we gave up because of lies from are then Union. I'm not here to start anything but I take everything with a grain of salt. I have talked to transfers from cleveland and it doesnt seem there that messed up. atleast they don't have trades doing production jobs. and they will reopen.