swhoosier

thank you for your reply--this idiot is comparing apple to oranges--he must be a company man!!!! his analogy is just as dumb as people voting yes!!!!!

this is why im voting nooooo

i agree--could u post the job numbers lost on another post ,,so these idiots know promising of jobs is a joke

this proved my point

thank u

your another dass that is for the company,,,you cannot read between the lines or even to see the facts

only if they want too...im voting no

im with u,,,,,vote no

I’m a firm believer in the UAW and what it stands for!! I’m also a firm believer that the contract the UAW has agreed on is a joke. Job security is based on the market and the economy. The job security commitment is just that. The 5,700 plus new jobs are mainly to retain UAW jobs. 1st example –when Minnesota closes and other plants close (stamping, engine, .etc. that is not in the brief outline that you will get) these people can only transfer if there is an opening at another facility. Will there be any because of the 2-tier wage workers hired which will start to happen left and right. Also those who have been at Ford longer than five years know that if the UAW and Ford say they created thousands of jobs, this is hardly true. I’ve been at Ford for 19yrs and have heard this same song and dance. Ford and the UAW promise us tens of thousands of jobs and Ford always used there many loopholes not to hire or create jobs. Then we here so many excuses from UAW why the job commitments didn’t happen. Are you going to fall for this again? Job security hmmm we all know it takes Ford at least 3yrs to make a product or a decision where its going to be built. So ask yourself why and how they can make a decision on job security within months after the contract would be voted yes on. Is it because they already made their decision prior to the contract talks? For the most part why is there only 6.3 billion out of 16.3 billion going to be invested in the U.S. ford is not going to honor the job commitments like in the past. Like in the past, the UAW is going to do nothing about it! To the idiots that will respond I’m voting yes because I want to help the company and thank god that you have a job, here is what I have too say; ford hardly honors the contract between Ford and the UAW. Fact there are tens of thousands of grievances against Ford not even including the master grievance…grievances mean Ford has violated the contract. To the idiots who are crying about jobs do you really believe Ford will honor the contract. The bonuses are a smack in the face!!!! We the union gave up over $30,000+ in concessions to help the company. The UAW convinced us to do so!! The company decisions got Ford in trouble and we had to pay for it. The Ford and UAW said it saved the company $500 to $600 million a year. Hmmm the bonuses that the glass house and the stupidvisors got were around $500 to $600 million. We deserve more money, if Alan Mulally got over $98 million in bonuses and stock options we should get some of our concessions back. A $6,ooo signing bonus is a disgrace The ironic thing is the new jobs that were created,(lol)- take the number that they say and cut it down more than half after the jobs have been retained!! The 2-tier workers before they got a job at Ford said that we were a bunch of whiners and they would work for 12 to 14 dollars an hour and be thankful-then they cried. I only make half of your wages and do the same job and now we vote on giving them a raise!!!! When the retirees are replaced by new hires, the same hypocrites that said we were overpaid and lazy are going to apply at Ford. We are going to vote yes for them and now we are going to vote yes and get nothing for ourselves. Way to go UAW. I’m a firm believer that the UAW is like the government they don’t listen to the people.

'I see why your going to vote yes because you missed the whole point company man. I'll help you out dummy,,,my point was that ford does not honor job security and the uaw lets them get away with it! There are to many loopholes between ford and the uaw commitments,,,especially on job security! now did you get it -company man!!!!! also--nafta,and wall street destroyed the economy!!!! do us all a favor -quit your job and go work for toyota!!!

people like you make me sick! job security! Job security is based on the market and the economy! Ford elimates hundreds of jobs every year at every plant! Ford tries to reduce 10% of the uaw jobs every year,,,so where is your job security! --since 1994 ford owes the uaw thousands of jobs!!!These jobs were promised in the contracts in the past but never fullfilled,, so where is your job security! Ford also stop hiring 1 uaw worker for every 2 uaw retires until the 2 tier wage came out,,so a agreement with ford about job security is a joke!!!!!! The ironic thing is the 2 tier wage people want us to vote for them to get a raise while in the meantime they complain that they do the same amount of work for half the pay..also The hypocrites who call the uaw people lazy and over-paid want us to vote for your job security-so they can get a job! so- do us a favor -take your company vote and stick it where the sun dont shine!!!!! Remember this company man--there is thousands of grievances thru the system between ford and the uaw....ask yourself why...hhhhmmmm-is it because the company doesnt honor the contract with ford.--

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