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fordworker last won the day on May 4 2010

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  1. STFUCKUP...Tea Party my ass u dumbies will support the GOP candidate in 012.. u IDIOTS supported McCain and he has never done a fuckin thing to stop the illegals..NOT 1 THING.. your boy Bush didnt do anything except give companies TAX CUTS to send our jobs overseas...he deregulated the banks he put OIL company guys in govt job to "regulate" those sasme companies.. Tea party is another name for Racist rich people loving destroy unions and the middle class people...
  2. real world time...what part of BANKRUPT dont u understand? the VEBA would not last 5 years if u had the same benefits..thats just a hard FACT... Caterpillars VEBA lasted all of 7years.... thats it
  3. JEALOUS arent u................... damn we are important and my neighbors know Im an asshole but they know Im not a crybaby..LOL
  4. real world bro...VEBA wont last forever... I suppose u want the same insurance the working ones get?? never happen and if it does the VEBA would be broke in 10 years then the retirees would get NO coverage...do the math on it ,,,just like CAT did when theres lasted 7 count em seven years now there retirees have no coverage.............
  5. thats correct...its deal or no deal time...or as ford says job or NO job???? u dont go then your benefits stop immediately and u get sub pay go read the agreement...if u get "forced moved" to Chicago then u better go or else..see ya..
  6. dude the GOP is grandstanding.. tell us what did BUSH do about the border for 8 fcking years>??? NOTHING...and Bush let them border patrol agents who shot those illegals stay in jail for years and he pardoned them right before he left office if Obama had done that Hannity and Rush and fixed news would be talking about it 24 ...7.... and McCain is the biggest liar of them all he hasnt proposed 1 dam bill for 30 yrs about the border until now.. what a crock of shit... oh and he said he never referred to himself as a "Maverick" a bold face LIE just watch the GOP convention Palin said Maverick about 50 times... remember QUOTE. "so lets take the MAVERICK out of the senate and put him in the White House". truth is the GOP wants the illegals in the USA to work for there business who the fck is employing the majority of them ??REPUBLICAN business owners thats who we need a law to throw there asses in prison the GOP will never support that
  7. the union needs to sit down with the company and tell them to give us our 4% performance bonus back retroactively back to Oct 2009 and give our XMAS bonus of $600 by july 2010. and if they wont then make it clear we will demand them back retroactively for 2 years next oct 2011 or we will seek a 3% raise each yr of the next 4 yr contract..if they give us our 4% bonus back by this july and in oct 2010...in exchange we will seek a 1% raise and a 3% performance bonus next 4 yrs.. either way we will be holding all the cards next yr.....
  8. Clinton acted on Al Queda and u republicans accused him of wagging the dog, and Bush was informed about Bin Laden in spring of 2001 and again right before he took his 39 day vacation in Texas in august 2001.... what did Bush do?? nothing thats what, instead he took all of the CIA off that case and sent most of them to New Orleans to battle the prostitution rings as Ashcroft demanded... ..As far as Clinton what about your 96 candidate Dole who left his family in kansas and married his interm( Elizabeth Dole) and what about Gingrich who let his hooker listen to natl security info... We wont mention Gov Sanford who did the worse thing ever done by a Gov.. and Ensign, Veeter, Craig asking for in bathroom,, ect ect ect
  9. hey dumby who had the congress from 1994-2006?? REPUBLICANS.....so Barnet Frank and Dodd didnt have control...but dont let facts get in the way...it was Bush who made the 0% down mortgages widespread after 9/11 to artificially prop up the economy which fell like the ponzi scheme it was in 2007 and 08... it was the GOP that relaxed the regulations not the dems.. and every recovery starts with dow jones going up and the jobs follow go back and look at history or r u not allowed as u listen to Hannity and Rush your saviors.. maybe ask them who the ONLY 2 term president to leave office with the dow jones lower than when he took office is or who is the #1 2 term president to leave with the most jobs lost is.. both r Bush....
  10. Ford could not of stayed in business if they were to keep all the retirees on the insurance roles,,, thats just a hard fact...99% of people I know of when they hit 67 have very little or no insurance besides medicare.. be happy with what we got we got better coverage then 99% other retirees...
  11. Reagan used "Trickle down" BS and before him Coolidge and Hoover used it... and theres lead to the great depression just as Reagans and Bush's has done.... wow 2 for 2
  12. Toyota is going bankrupt.... once all the facts come out there toast...
  13. there would be a cutoff point...if u have 20 yrs or less they would get a reduced pension and convert the rest to a 401k.. most companies give u 10% of your base pay and they increase that by alot your last 5-10 yrs before u get your 30 yrs.. take a guy with 15 yrs he may get $120k in an account and receive $8,000 per yr with rapid increases in yrs 20-30. Ford has over $65 billion in our pension fund so they could easily do this.. u just have to manage your retirement money yourself...
  14. the VEBA wont last 20 yrs unless its changed.. believe Ford will convert our pensions into a 401K in 2011.. and Ford will agree to put more $$ into the VEBA program.. its a win win for everyone
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