Pete

Your dealer knows. 0% APR Ford Credit Financing for 60 months- PLUS -$500 Bonus Cash - OR up to - $3,000Cash Back Not positive, that that applys to you...ring a bell? By the way, No change on your truck

Incentive at time of ordering is locked in. However if incentive at time of delivery to customer is better, customer can take advantage of it. Was just wondering if somebody has the "inside scoop" Usually towards the end of the model-year, incentives get better. My dealer is swamped with fast selling vehicles as many people wait to see what the new model year brings. (besides incentives) Especially this time of the year with 2012 just around the corner.

My new vehicle will be ready for pickup on Friday. But i am quite willing to let it sit on the dealer lot till July. Does anybody have information on July incentives coming down the pipe?

I wonder if that is all the divorced guys, that got screwed over and cleaned out.....:heartbreaker:

elk garden wv rings a bell... i gave somebody from there a x-pin...wasn't you, was it?

When send to plant - it shows -in Production right away even though it's not actually being build for several days yet. Maybe that's what jamesgang is thinking.......

What makes you think that? Oakville builds a vehicle in 18 hours, unless it gets hungup for repair someplace. Stap as about the same. 1 week, no way Unless yours got damaged and has to be rescheduled to be rebuild, got a VIN ?

That major software upgrade is for 2012 model year. I doubt it to be backwards compatible. If i'm wrong...all the better. Navigation system will get some upgrades as well. Such as lane assist.

Yes...i just send you mail I'll let you know through email when it moves

It's not the MFT ,which is easy to use, but rather general stability and responsiveness i was referring to. Acording to Consumer Reports, that is also the reason why it removed the MKX from it's recommendet vehicle list

Glad to hear....feel better now

MyTouch software problem is in fact a actual car-issue. When folks pay for a vehicle that has it, it should work flawlessly, just like any other part of the car. Nobody should have to put up with any quirks. I have no doubt, that ford is contiuing it's software upgrades in order for it to work properly, and as expected by customers.

Ohhh.....the bylaws and constitution....forgot about that. Wonder if that apply' s to the 450 k in 1520's bank account too. I already came to the conclusion that we wont see anything coming back from our union . I wouldn't expect anything other then a pen handout at the meetings, if it wasn't for the plant closure. Wonder if the bylaws and constitution include plant closure language. I imagine it's being looked into. I am a believer in the Union in general. It's what comes with it, we need to keep our eyes on. I witnessed many times ( not so much in recent past at all, but definitely years ago, ) when we had some of the "old" guys challenge and question Union actions, they pretty well got nailed to the cross by our leadership. Once again, i have to mention Bill Gilmore, but there where others. Some of you may know his history. For those that don't, he was the most honest and knowledgeable (regarding our contract, as well as our bylaws and constitution) guy we ever had . Our local basically crucified him and assisted the company in doing so. Why?...because he held the union accountable and simply asked to many questions, demanded to many answers and was a major pain in the unions butt. That was then.....not comparing with our present representation. For those, that believe that everything our union does and says is true, right and just....not always the case! Do we need the union? YES,absolutely!, but we should also question it and not just follow like a horde of sheep. I apparently resorted to union bashing, which was not my intent when i originally replied to the OP. Just wanted to say, there have been problems in the past and i DO hope our union will come out of this without any lumps and bruises Still think Scott is a victim of the times... Enough said.....

Looked early this am.....no change the dealer tell you it has moved?

Brother Framer Being glad to see some of us go? I stated earlier that i am a union supporter. If it wasn't for the union we would not have the wages and benefits and working conditions we have/ had. (before the 3 rounds of concessions) (I remember working conditions when i started.....walk in the park now.) That dosent mean that i put blind faith in the union. I know better. Over the years i have seen plenty of things our leadership done, that where not at all union-like. I seen them screw guys over and over. ( one good example would be Bill Gilmore) Matter of fact, I got screwed over by our inplant union .Not in a small way either. It has cost me big bucks. I wont go into detail on this forum, and you may not believe it. But sadly enough It's true. I hope you are right in your believe that there is no wrong doing by our union at any level. See what happens. Ohh.....i still think the Hall and 1520 assets belong to 1520 members and nobody else!! Why do i get the feeling i am yet again being screwed over.....

You guys are scaring the hell out of me. My MKX arrived at the dealer. Will get it next week and sure as hell do not want it in the shop soon after. Some of you might think i am asking for to much, but when i blow 54 grand on a new vehicle, i don't want any problems at all. Not for 2-3 years anyhow. Here it is

I do not want to give anybody the impression that i am anti-union. I am not. All though the union has changed a lot in the time i been a member. There are things that bother me. The national already owns and sold (as far as i been told) "our" hall, that we (including all that retired) have paid for. That's after the national got there share of our dues. Not getting a cent out of the Hall... Our local had 450,000 in the account last summer, when i told dennis that i will be looking for my share of whatever is left when we close down. He told me there wont be anything left. Guess he knew something i didn't and still don't. Maybe the national already had it's hand on it. Not gonna get a cent from that either. Here i been thinking all those years that it belongs to us, the membership. Here is the way i see it as far as the 400 mill goes. Ford had told our bargaining brass there was 400 mill ford are spending and it's up to the union, as to how they want to slice it up. The union had input in how it was going to be divided. The package monies are from the 400 mil, and ford will issue the cheque's. So, the union does not have it. Have they gotten any monies yet? Who knows. As far as i know, 200 goes towards the severance packages. 200 towards the "action center". And that's what bothers me. Is it another property that will end up in the nationals hands? What exactly will it be for?..to tell us how to apply for EI ? Or to let us use there PC to look for a job online? As of now, answers are slow in coming...nobody knows anything. What's the holdup? All 400 mill should be divided, pro-rated amongst us. Screw the "action center" I don't see why the local or the national should in any way benefit from our plant closing. It is OUR money!

By the way....i think it's real wood. Still don't like the new light color all the same.

where are you stealing the gas from? errrr... i ment, why are you getting gas in cans? MKX is going to Ziebart beginning of the week. Will get it thursday or so.

entirely possible...system is not updated that quickly, it seems. Just checked and system still shows Bingcprs, NY. I'll check later today for ya again When i left work yesterday , my mkx showed at still being in oakville yard. i checked my dealer lot ( i drive by it on the way home anyhow), and there it was. Owner said it had arrived at 12.30. When i got home , i checked and it then showed as delivered. guess there is a 3 hour, or so, window.

We, at STAP have known for over a year. They handed out papers, informing us that we wont have a job by Sep.16 2011, with our pay-stub about 4 weeks ago. Body will be done first, then paint / final.....some repair guys will Finnish up the cars. I imagine we will walk out for the last time as our last car goes by. AT STAP, Then they will keep some people for decommissioning the plant. Some trades will stay back. Only very little has been leaked out....ford has not made a final announcement yet General stores items will have to be shipped to other plants...(whatever little is left) Ready-racks will be torn down. Equipment will be shipped to other plants. Plant services will have to be there to remove garbage. All them jobs for decommissioning will be on a plant-wide seniority basis, providing you are qualified to do that job. Apparently, that will be till late december 2011 ( lift truck license/ tug license) and trades will go by plant wide seniority as well. No official canvass has been done yet, although i have been asked if i will stay Not sure if that's how it'll be done at your location Hope this is of some help Oh....if you have been scheduled to be shuddered, don't waste a lot of hope on staying open. Sorry. I just wish both, americans and canadians would just buy american vehicles. Our plants wouldnt get shut down and in turn we wouldnt cause a domino effect to our economy. Kind of hard to buy stuff if we're in the unemployment line.

Agreed... it would not take all that much. They could easily provide you with login info at the time of the order being placed with ford.Ford could rigg it, so only the current status shows and everything else being disabled or not even showing, to keep you folks from digging around. Depending on which ford site they have you log into, some reveal more then others. User id would be good till vehicle shows as having arrived at dealer. On the other hand, maybe ford just as soon NOT let anybody in the system for security reasons. What makes the most sense to me is for Ford to send you a automated email every time the order/build/ shipping status changes. No security risk and everybody is informed and happy.

i just paid extra to have it in my MKX. Seen the light colored wood in a F150 just yesterday, and i don't care for it. Sooner have it dark or no wood.

Still sitting at Bingcprs, NY <BR><BR>"and thanks a million for doing this "<BR> Not a problem. I have time and dont mind at all.

Hooold it....let's not judge prematurely. Let's just wait and see what falls out of the bag. There are plenty of things that bother me too. Some are concerning the financial aspect. I also want to say that All to many of our members have put a label on scott smith , he does not deserve. He was doomed right off the bat. Simply because of the turmoil he stepped into, which was not his doing. You all been at the Information meeting in london and had to vote. Then you all seen scott stand up in front of the rest of the caw brass and ONLY HE had the balls to recommend the rejection of this negotiated mess. Give the guy a break. I voted against. Majority voted in favor. If in fact there is wrong doing, i suspect it to be above scott.