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As far as I know, Woodhaven and Rouge and AAI did not get enough Machine repair to fill what was needed. They will have to do something. Im supposed to report to AAI on Monday, so we shall see.

I worked at maumee stamping. I know what its like to have your plant close. Realisticly, the uaw could not stop ford from closing a plant. Ok, you feel they could have negotiated to keep tcap open. What would they give up and return? Ford decided they had to close an assembly plant. I know it sucks. They could have handled it better, don't get me wrong. But the uaw could not save tcap. They cannot force ford to keep anything open. They can only try to ease the burden. I've been in your shoes brother. I watched my plant close. I've worked 2 different temporary placements. I went back to production for 3 years. I know the pain. I wish you luck brother, but ford closed your plant not the uaw. Uaw needs some blame in the details, but ford did most of it. Good luck in your decision making. I understand exactly how you feel. Best wishes brother.

posted at my bank a few hours ago

How many have signed so far? I for one was a big hell no to the signature request. I refuse to thank anyone for closing a plant.

Have not heard one way or the other on the 3rd shift. Couple of friends at saline got their marching orders for MAP in 2 weeks. Not sure if they are starting to empty saline or just need people at MAP. Good luck to all moving. 4 plants in 4 years here so I know it sucks.

He's just spreading lies OIM. Screwed is just another screen name for Charles fitch. He got fired and spends his time on here trying to cause turmoil. Look around you will see his other names. They are all the same bs, over and over. He gets called out, makes up a new name. Rinse wash repeat. So no worries, he's just a bitter ex employee with a grudge. He actually started a fake web site seeking donations for the ex mayor of Detroit after he was convicted. He's been booted off numerous sites for using multiple names. Quite pathetic actually. Here is a link to above scandal. http://www.freep.com/article/20080909/NEWS06/809090347/Owner-bogus-mayor-site-fesses-up

Chuckie, quit spreading lies. You don't get sub pay because your sorry ass was terminated. The only place you will retire from is burger king. So just stay in Canton and stay off employee message boards. Go start another scam for kilpatrick or something. Sell your Chinese sunglasses, make up fake reviews for them. We don't care loser.

Just go away Fitch, you got fired, get over it. Your never coming back. Go make up some fake reviews for your cheap ass eBay Shit.

Yup, kick them out than cut them off. That's solidarity for you. So you don't want 10% of your profit sharing to ensure retirees have health care, but have no issue being taxed to give free health care to tons of people who make ne effort to work at all. So the people who never tried deserve free health care much more than someone who busted their ass for 30 years. That makes perfect sense. Explain how nafta was uaw friendly. How job friendly is immelt? Don't get me wrong, all politicians are useless scumbags who only care about getting re-elected. They don't care about you or I. But your right the retirees don't need health care. They had their chance. Maybe we should close VA hospitals too. I mean the soldiers could have tried harder to dodge bullets. Its not your fault they we to lazy to move out of the way.

Trail, I absolutely agree with what you are saying. Unfortunately Die has repeatedly blamed the retirees for this problem by stating they should have prepares better for retirement. He has stated this several times in other threads on here. To me that is unacceptable. They all retired with the promiss of health care. We owe them that. The uaw leadership should not have told us in 2009 that veba was fully funded, you are 100% correct on that. Die here thinks the uaw leadership can walk on water and the one part of the contract he dislikes, he blames on the retirees. Instead of putting the blame where it actually should be put, he has repeatedly attacked retirees. I understand he supports the contract. I also supported the contract after weighing the good and the bad of it I thought it was acceptable. Some say I was drinking the kool aid, maybe that's true, but at least I'm not drowning in it like Die is. I can't stand his attack on the retirees. Blame our leadership for this issue, don't make up a ridiculousthank you letter to the Iuaw and Obama.

Only right wingers care about spelling and punctuation. Lol I just had to post this before Die blows a gasket. :happy feet:

Might as well give it up fired. If you disagree with anything he posts at all your just a right wing nut. Notice he ignored the retiree subject whenever he gets called out on it? Preach solidarity while slamming anyone who disagrees. Its quite humorous. He's barely above chuckie status on here anymore.

No your the one that hates retirees and can't stomach the fact that 10% of profit sharing goes to veba. That's a sad excuse for a union member and as a human being. Your support solidarity as long as its to your benefit. Solidarity is remembering those before you as well. But you'd rather complain about 10% going to retirees and then give the president kudos for the contract. Please remind us when he sat on in negotiations. Its ok to support the contract, I did as well but don't rub people's nose in it. But back to my original issue with yiu, your hatred and discust for retirees us inexcusable. You will never change our minds on your hypocrisy of preaching solidarity while bitching about retirees. You don't even understand the concept of solidarity.

Lol chuckie your to funny and predictable. Don't mind what chuckie says here. He hasn't been relevant or employed for years. Maybe you should worry about getting retired by Ford before worry about voting for anything Mr fitch. Employees only jackass.

Ok chuckie.

Nice post here. This is a much better way to go about this. To think Obama, any democrat or any republican cares about us us assinine. They all serve the all mighty dollar. We have to take charge of our own future.

No he's serious. He's been blowing Obama for years and if you dare to disagree your a right wing nut. Of course he can't stomach that 10 percent of profit sharing goes to retiree health care. He feels they should have planned better for retirement and we owe retirees nothing. He's tired of having to carry the lazy retirees who were to dumb to save enough. Thankfully only about 3 people take him serious and the rest just walk by the blithering idiot.

Here's one of your quotes: Sound like solidarity to you? Then there is always your claim that this is the first time in your life that your proud of this union. That sure sounds like solidarity to me. Your the solidarity king jackass!

Your village just called, they lost their idiot and would like you to return. You have been on here for weeks spewing your garbage about your dislike of some profit sharing going to veba. How can you claim union brotherhood while constantly saying its not your fault retirees didn't save enough. You sir are the anti union brother. It's always about you. Blame who people vote for all you want, it won't change the fact that your a self absorbed piece of shit who ignores what people before you fought for you to get. And you thank them by bitching like a little girl because were trying to maintain their health insurance. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Your a disgrace to any union brother or sister. With members like you the union is doomed. Thank god your just a peon and 98 percent of the people on here realize your a blithering idiot. You and chuckie should just go beat each other off and let the grown ups handle the important business. Since your my union brother, maybe someday you'll be put up for adoption and go away.

Yes, this is correct. They retain their DOE into the trades. It's been this way for years.

New update says yes votes with over 14k in votes and 62% No votes have 9k and 38%

Lol now that good humor! I'll even give you the rare +1 on that one. I'll cancel out at least one of the 4 negatives you will get just for posting. Hope all is well with you and fired. Good luck and I'll see you in the political thread before long.

Chuckie is so funny. Create a post under one name and praise the post with another name. Priceless! If only you and all your names could vote in yourself. Free cheap sunglasses for all. I'd vote for you if you worked for Ford. Your honesty and integrity are unmatched. Well except for the made up names, blatant lies started to stir up trouble, your lack of a fully functioning brain, failed business ventures, backing a convicted felon for mayor after his conviction, setting up a fake web site seeking donations for the ex mayor, your chronic masturbation, inability to walk and chew gum and the constant begging for a free penis implant your a stand up kind of guy.

Chuckie there is just a useless asshole who makes shit up. He uses 20 different names, spews incoherent garbage that nobody believes. He has to write his own good reviews for his Chinese sunglasses. He's a complete loser, plain and simple. He obviously devotes most od his time to inventing shit on this page. No wonder the sunglasses are a failure. You don't work for Ford, don't go away mad, just go away.

Chuckie gets slammed again. That's some funny shit right there. Loser keeps coming back. Be careful he might sic the 995sunglasses legal department on you lol.