jlames

thx for the reply;yh

Can anyone tell me if the F250 Super Duty Lariat comes with 110 volt plugs and inverter?

Yes, me too and thank you. I've always found that people who have differing opinions can only hear each other when they begin to listen to each other, accepting the other individual as as valuable a contributor to the interchange as he or she is. In my business, I always look forward with great anticipation to the "pitch" so to speak. I always want "their" best and brightest in the room to hit me with the hardest questions they can muster. If their issues have merit, I get the opportunity to see something I missed in the first go-round and fix it making the product better. If their issue is baseless, I have the opportunity to defend it and through that defense know my product even better than when I arrived for having the opportunity to defend it. Either way, I appreciate the individual who, for whatever reason, raises questions and I believe he appreciates me more for appreciating him or her. Kind of simple once you accept that "pride of authorship" can be as detrimental as it is necessary.

Hey-= I'm still smoldering over Lincoln-Mercury's decision to quit the "Mark" line and no, the MKX isn't a "Mark" line. I mean one of the most beautiful sport coupes made, the Collector's Edition Mark VIII. Leased a 97 and when I heard they were going to me no more, bought #0880 to keep. "The sport coupe market" was dying they said. I don't know, I just know I love dat car... or I mean work of art. But the company can't survive on my 2 trucks and Mark VIII!!

Great and thanks. I can't recall what I was going to send you a shot of but I'll remember it. In the mean time, let's try your solution with one of the truck they're "considering our offer on' right now. In the mean time, is this the appropriate forum to carry on our conversations in or is there another one. Don't want to run afoul of the "Forum Feds" although these moderators, and I have no idea of they even monitor this site or this forum, seem pretty nice just to let us discuss what we think should be on an F250. Got some great news I'd like to share with you and the other people I met through here but I don't want to clog up the wrong forum with chit chat. My wife's the beautiful expert on all thing Internet/Forum. I'm just the slug who got lucky enough to marry her and tag along.Also, I forgot and was mistaken. My father's car was a 1973 Mark IV, opera windows and all. Lincoln sure knew how to make luxury.

Oh, you had THE cars or pretty close anyway. My father had a brand new Lincoln Mk III, chocolate brown that just glistened with the factory metal flake in it and rich, dark, brown leather seats; still one of the most beautiful cars made. I had a Mark VII and VIII, the last one one of the Collector Series, metal flake pearl white with the two tone grey leather interior; another most beautiful car made. They sure knew how to do things "Fifth Avenue" as we used to say. Guess we still do. The trucks are the same way. I'll send along a pic of the interior of the one we're figuring on. You just can't beat it for style and class. Now, if they'd just go with Hermann Oak leather as an option and go back to a great sounding sound system, well, I'd buy one anyway. I just can't help but think, and here I go sounding like a Hermann Oak salesman which I assure you I'M NOT!!!, having a Hermann Oak two tone option in the KR say would have alot of upper hill cowboys, ranchers, mid-westerners and even Wall Streeters that dress like us working horse people on weekends writing out the checks for the option. I know I would. I'm trying to talk my wife into two-tone brown and black, almost like Jeep's if we get the new truck. I think it would look great in the cab that's now straight black leather and wood grain. And my old Mark VIII wood and leather steering wheel!!! I think I'm in the wrong business. Maybe I should be a car designer! Hey, how do I attach a small photo from my hard drive here anyway?

deanh was right in his concern relative to whether or not I was just a crackpot, lunatic or nay-sayer stirring up trouble. Some of the things people complain about or want are fairly ridiculous. Personally, I'd love the ability to just use the 6th wire in the rear electrical gangbox that's dead on delivery because the tailgate camera and power are only using up the other 5. Number 6 could be used for a second camera for a trailer or such. Makes more sense than fart fans! Or maybe not!

Are we sure that was a sweat stain??? You know, honestly,when we were buying our Mercedes a few years ago there was a dealer who joked about an "odor fan" located in the bottom of the seat to, shall we say, suck up the additional air released by passengers in the vicinity if the seat cushion ;-) (delicately put!!!) and filtering it so it didn't bother the other passengers. Sure enough, a year or so ago I found that Mercedes did in fact offer this, in conjunction of course with the 'heated/cooled seat". Passing reference was given the bonus functionality in the manual.

yeah, that's the way it always is. People think because cows wear it without a bottle of conditioner, we must be able to too. Live cows have an internal oil pump that keeps their hide supple and durable!!! OK, sounds silly but its true. Our saddles, even at $4k or $5k a piece, would turn to dust without care and they're built for abuse so thinly cut leather seats in trucks, well, you get the picture. I can't tell you how many posts I read from people who actually complained that they had to condition their KR seats as if KR leather should somehow be impervious to wear and tear because they paid a high dollar for the package. Don't know what a KR interior adds to the price point of a Ford but I can assure you its far less that a $5000 Chavez cutting saddle and we have to clean and condition the heck out of our saddles.

We've about decided that the Ford is the truck for us even with all of its drawbacks which are, admittedly few and mostly not of Ford's making; i.e the emissions standards and the like. It'll be not a daily driver per se but I'll be in it alot so I want the interior as nice as possible. That's where the Ford really outshines the competition. Like the 06,07 Dodge 5.7 in power and fuel economy, the Ford is the tops in "luxury appointments" inside. Dodge is having mo0re than its share of problems with the new Lariat and, to be honest, the interior that apparently tried to copy the KR is just truly horrible in quality of product and workmanship. We have a quote of $1800 to re-upholster the interior in Hermann Oak leather which includes the seating surfaces and sides. Only the seat backs are lesser-grade leather but leather nonetheless and Hermann Oak is the best leather in the durability and looks department out there. Alot of our saddles and tack is Hermann Oak so its pretty good stuff. It's not the glove-soft Rolls Royce/Bentley stuff but we want tough not soft. We'll be throwing saddles and all the other usual horse junk inside so the more scratch resistant it is the better. And we'll be maintaining it like we do out saddles and tack anyway so it'll get both the work out we need it to stand up to and the care it deserves. I know I sound like a commercial for Hermann Oak or some type of leather expert but I'm not. I just know what kind of a pounding our horse tack takes and comes out beautiful after 20 years with maintenance so I though I'd pass my experience along. Anyway, people are yanking the 2011 sound system out and replacing it with $2-3k systems that are at least as good as the systems that came stock in the '08 F250 so we figure the leather seats at $1800 is for us.

Wouldn't doubt it. After the laughter dies down, it's actually a pretty good idea but I would think aftermarket. But, perhaps that's why I don't design trucks!!! As for the 'pleather", we're all over "the Boards" in research as to which truck to buy and listening to the comments of owners, separating the wheat from the chaffe so to speak, figuring out for ourselves what's a real concern and what's just some yahoo's rant about hi s seats being inferior because he had a wood chisel in his back pocket, got in his new truck and the seat ripped type of thing. Of course, had the seats not ripped but the chisel bent, he'd be all over faultychisels.com so... Some of the comments are good, some are bad but some are repetitive on a single theme like thjer leather/pleather debate containing references to people whose seats were showing severe wear after just a few months. Leather/ pleather debate, leather 'inserts" and the quality of the leather used were all topics. Powerstroke.com, powerstroke.org... the usual.

Also, since Deanh seems to know this company pretty well, maybe you can answer a question for me. Is it true that the Lariat has pleather seats or inferior grade leather on the seats? Geeze I hope not.

Looks like "avoid the Fiat" advice was good advice. Ford just dropped the package from their 2012 F250 lineup according to their June product lineup schedule.That and owners will justl have to keep track of their tools on their own with no more Tool Link available!!! Good call.

How about the "Shelbys" company that'd add a custom modification that includes carefully reducing the angle of the bed gate from precisely zero to an exact and full 90 degrees being careful to certify that the exact measurements between the bed walls and the floor are equidistant from front to rear assuring no paralax from base to apex, quadrilateral university and equality along the length of the container and volume continuity and then inserting, ever so carefully, A '65 SHELBY COBRA to fill the void created!!! I'm no engineer but THAT's a Shelby mod I could really live with. And I wouldn't need a second camera because I couldn't take my eyes off it anyway!

Just saw your last post. You definitely sell more than I do. I'm just a buyer!