povertyknob

The lease on my Expedition is coming to an end in a couple of months and I'm considering another Expy, an F 150 Super Crew , and the Explorer ST. The EB35 in my Expedition has not been a disappointment at all and if I'm going to downsize I'd like to see 2-3 mpg better on average. The Explorer with the 3.0 sounds like something I'd be interested in but if it offers fuel economy only marginally better than the Expedition I'll probably go that route (Expedition) again. The only 3.0 TT I could find for comparison was in a Lincoln. I wouldn't expect to see any discounted lease prices on the new Explorers any time soon so the 2019 Expedition probably won't be much more to lease.

It's not exactly apples to apples , but the brochure for the 2019 Continental shows 16/24/19 for the 400hp/400lb-ft engine. The Explorer is roughly 100 pounds heavier. r

You guys need to clean this up. I know it's a contract year and everyone is a little on edge, but customers can and do read these forums and i'd rather they didn't get the impression we were all neanderthals. Complaining is one thing but some of the language is offensive. Thanks.

Standard cab won't work for me. There are times when I'll carry four adults,a baby carrier , and a dog. My 2005 F 150 Super Cab fit in my garage just fine. The new ones...not so much. when Ford cancelled the Ranger and Sport Trac programs they also effectively stretched the F 150 by a foot by eliminating the 5 1/2 foot bed as an option. I assume they didn't sell too many in that configuration, but that was before they cancelled the "compact" trucks.Hopefully they'll consider offering that configuration for 2015.

You make an excellent argument against building another compact pick-up truck and I can't disagree with a word of it. I find myself in the apparently very small minority of buyers who love everything about the F-150 except the ever growing footprint. I'll hold on to my Sport Trac until the new F-150 debuts in 2015 , but if Ford can't find it in their hearts to make the Super Cab in a configuration that isn't a foot or so shorter I'll have to consider the CanyonColorado. For a guy that spent 40 years working for Ford that;s going to be a hard thing to do.

I'd be delighted to replace my Sporttrac with a new T-6 Ranger if it were available. It's the perfect size for my needs with ideal power and off road capability. I hope Ford can make a business case for making it available here soon. In the meantime, they could make the F-150 I want a full foot shorter by offering the Super Cab with the 5 1/2 foot bed and short wheelbase.

Go to Myfordbenefits.com and click on "pension". Then click on "payment information" and "payment amounts". That will tell you exactly how long your supplement payments are going to continue. You may not like what you see,but at least you'll know.

I retired under the previous contract in 2008,turned 62 a year ago, and I've continued to receive the supplement for nearly a year now. I've received my last supplement since I'm old enough to draw 80% of my social security as of two weeks ago. I'm not sure what happens to those who've retired since the last contract. I went to the Ford Fanatics Forum for more info and found that I had actually posed the same question over there several months ago after reading a similar rumor on BON. I couldn't get an answer there or from reading the contract highlights. It would be a good idea to make a phone call if you're considering retirement.

It's too bad it will "only" wade through 30 inches of standing water....otherwise I'd be tempted to fly over there, buy one, and drive it home!

But I did reference "comparable" vehicles. Personally, I don't want a regular cab truck. I frequently need to carry more than three people. And I like to have a truck with a nice option package. Neither of those is possible with the regular cab F-150. The regular cab T-6 is nearly the same size as the regular cab F-150.....but the SC/CC F-150 is 21 inches longer than the T-6 Crew Cab. Sure, the T-6 that I'd buy is 90% the size of a comparable F 150, but that 21 inches is significant when you're pulling into a garage. The wheelbase on the T 6 Crew cab is also shorter than the F-150 SC/CC, making it more maneuverable. I realize it may not be profitable to bring the T-6 to the U.S. market at this time and I'm not suggesting they do so. I was just sort of wondering what that vehicle that was 90% the size of the F 150 would look like.

The 2012 F 150 SC and CC are both 231.9 inches long according to the dimensions I'm seeing. A comparable T-6 Crew Cab is 211 inches long. While that does work out to 90%, that extra 21 inches makes a lot of difference if you'd like to pull it into a garage and close the door.

I'm not forgetting a darned thing. I've been retired for 3 1/2 years after putting in 40 years at Ford in assembly. and later as a tradesman. I'm hoping active employees will look at the big picture and do what's necessary to get every Ford worker recalled and every tradesperson back on his/her tools.That means some people are going to have to vote yes on something they probably find a little distasteful...but for the greater good. If all I have to give up is a "Christmas" bonus that's a small price to pay to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. I do appreciate that the thoughts of some of you are with the retirees and i want to say "Thanks for your support". .

Chicken and egg,,,Are they disaffected because he's causing controversy.....or is he causing controversy to gain standing? Either way he's in it for #1.

I was answering a question from Deanh -not stating my own belief. Some folks in the UAW understand the situation. Others are willfully ignorant.

The hourly folks feel like they were part of the reason Ford didn't have to take a bailout.You can disagree with that-and I do, but that's their reasoning. What's mind boggling is that Ford agreed to give them more than GM and there is still such a groundswell of no votes.I'm not sure when the IUAW lost the trust of the rank and file but it makes it pretty easy for agitators to stir things up.When the International called the plant reps to Detroit they should have made it damned clear that this was as good as it was going to get and required every plant chairman to indicate that he/she understood. That there is such resistance to what seems like a reasonable contract kind of takes the United out of UAW.