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They have the ultimate trailer tow camera system on the F250 and F350. It isn't wireless though. I am not sure if it is compatible with other wired camera systems out there.
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19 minutes ago, blksn8k2 said:
That cutaway view certainly illustrates the fact that on modern unibody vehicles with modern crash standards the "no separate frame" description is clearly blurred. ?
You can't separate the two. The body isn't bolted to a frame and the large frame members themselves don't make up 100% of the structural rigidity. No it isn't like early unibody vehicles with small subframes on the front and rear with nothing in between, but they are nothing like body on frame trucks either.
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On 8/3/2019 at 1:33 PM, FloridaMatt said:
Interestingly, adaptive suspension is listed as standard on the Reserve II trim for the Corsair. I wonder if it's the same.
Adaptive suspension is a MagneRide suspension. It is also available on the Navigator, Mustang, and others. This is different than the dynamic handling package with road preview which adds the air ride suspension and road scanning. The base Aviator is standard shocks, the reserve gets the adaptive system, the dynamic handling is a package option.
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@LynnAnn Couple of thoughts, if this is happening on the first start of the morning, aka a cold start, that could explain why the technicians can't find the problem. If that is the case, you really need to have someone record (with the hood up) your first morning start to capture the noise you are hearing. You can post the video here as well and maybe someone here could help point you in the correct direction to facilitate service. Sometimes a good description of the noise is all a mechanic needs to diagnose an issue or begin to find a cause/solution. You might also suggest they keep it overnight once you have evidence and let them start it cold.
With the free loaner make the shop fix all of your issues. It is all covered by warranty. Remember this is the same engine as the F-150 Raptor, so you find also find out if those owners have had similar issues with start.
And lastly, if your dealership is being less than helpful, rate them down on service and find another Lincoln dealer that will help.
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On 6/18/2019 at 7:23 PM, ice-capades said:
Per the most recent FDNB (Fleet Distribution News Bulletin) here's the production schedule for the 2020 Lincoln Navigator.
- 07/05/2019 - 2019MY Fleet Final Order Due Date
- 07/25/2019 - 2019MY Last Day to Spec Change
- 10/13/2019 - 2019MY Balance Out Date
- 07/17/2019 - 2020MY Order Bank Open Date
- 08/15/2019 - 2020MY Scheduling Begins
- 10/14/2019 - Job #1 Date
The 2020 Lincoln Navigator will be available on or about 07/17/2019 and will be uploaded to the Product Order Guides section as soon as it's available.
Is the order guide out? Thought maybe with the F-150 and others coming out on the day the order bank opened they would get the Navigator and Expedition out today.
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9 minutes ago, fordtech1 said:
Hey I applaud people that want to do their own maintenance. Simple stuff like air filters, cabin filters, wipers, etc. Go for it. However, unless you have a lift and a drain buggy, why would you want to deal with an oil change. Most stuff now is extremely hard to do on the ground. Not to mention the mess. Plus, other than the satisfaction of doing it yourself and knowing it’s done correct, there is no cost benefit. Ford’s works package is very reasonable. Personally, I would find a place I trust and let them deal with the belly pans and oil runoff the control arms etc.
I stopped doing my oil changes years ago. I even had a conversation with a young coworker about his Lexus is350. We did the math and figured out that the dealer was basically charging only $10 for labor (if that) because the retail cost of buying the oil and filter was nearly as much as the dealer's price. I still change my air and cabin filters and I will do my own shocks, struts, and other easily accessible things, but if it involves fluids or getting under the vehicle, off to the dealer it goes.
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25 minutes ago, cbFL said:
@AutomotiveAddicts (or anybody that knows), have any production Aviators actually shown up in northern or central Florida yet? It seems like I've only seen mentions from the Midwest (which makes sense when they're coming from Chicago). Probably CSX is to blame ?
I haven't seen any (Explorers or Aviators) show up in Kansas either and it is not that far from Chicago.
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Tesla went proprietary and Nobody else in the industry is willing to pay a licensing fee to use a proprietary connector. If they would have applied to make it an SAE standard free to use then maybe it would have been adopted, but they didn't and everyone is using one of the standard connectors. Standards are key to interoperability and widespread acceptance.
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Think of this like you would a Shelby Mustang (GT500KR or Super Snake) or a Roush or a Hennessy. Multimatic is an engineering, design, and manufacturer of components and parts. They also do small scale production (GT). Basically they are taking the normal GT that they build on contract for Ford and in a licensing agreement with Ford are adding race specific parts that they have developed and tuning the engine. Ford Performance probably shared the engineering work with Multimatic, but I would bet Multimatic had the majority of the development cost. Multimatic is acting like an upfitter, selling a race car, which happens to not be street legal anyway.
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Betting it will be a hybrid power train. Take the current 3.5L TT V6 and add an EM mated with the 7 spd DCT with total system output north of 800 hp and 1000 lb/ft of torque.
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Just to expand on electric power, the EM's are rated torque and rated Hp, but the actual output is controlled by the amount of current you apply to the motor. So when they say the Aviator is 450+/600+ doesn't mean it will have a 50 hp / 200 lbft electric motor. It will probably be something higher than the Euro Explorer which is rated at 99 hp and probably somewhere around 210ish lbft on the torque rating (it wasn't specified in the materials I could find on it).
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2 hours ago, msm859 said:
I doubt you can engage the hybrid motor alone without the ICE. It only has 44 hp.
Huh?? You do know that many tugs pull airplanes with engines that only have 40 to 50 hp. At a rated 221 lbft, the EM would hit the rated 44hp at about 1000 rpm, the 3.3l will be barely above idle at that point. The electric motor is plenty sufficient to propel the Explorer in electric only mode, the problem will be that you will exhaust the battery fairly quickly.
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2 hours ago, rothen said:
reserve model starts at 75500 CAD
the other trim is the grand touring hybrid plugin that starts at 81000 CAD
https://shop.lincolncanada.com/build/aviator/#/chooseyourpath/
I find annoying that's not possible to select the dynamic package withouth the very expensive (12200 CAD) 302A package.
I just would like to get my aviator plugin with dynamic package, no-cost second row bench seats and luxury package, for a total of 6000 CAD of optionals, that's it.
Do you think it's going to be possible if the configurator doesn't allow it?
It is the same way in the US. You have to have the GT II package to get dynamic handling (included in GT II, not a standalone option on the GT). You have to have GT I to add the luxury package.
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1 hour ago, dlghtjr90 said:
20.2 gallons, which I presume you got it from the lincoln.com website,.. but is it?
I am seeing a (pleasantly surprising) 21.4 gallons from our EPA website.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=41486&id=41488
I am guessing the 21.4 gallon is indeed the actual capacity but when you see '0 miles til empty' is when you use up 20.2 gallons.
Still, this is the first time I'm seeing a mismatch between EPA number vs. OEM website number.
No, from Ford.com specifications for the Explorer under capacities it has:
Fuel capacity XLT / Limited
ST / Platinum17.9 U.S. gal
20.2 U.S. galI realize this thread is about the Aviator, but the post I was responding too was in response to an Explorer ST. However Lincoln does list the Aviator with a 20.2 gallon tank. The EPA site also lists the 2.3L Explorer with a 19.2 gallon tank. My guess is that the EPA is listing total capacity (fuel lines, etc.) and Ford is listing the capacity from zero on the gauge or the point at which the fuel pump may start to cavitate.
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17 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said:
Who knows what options that ST curb weight had. Mine had most of them and I trust Fords invoice over a 3rd party review. This is 1 of mine.
I did not choose the smokers ash tray, wheel locks, DVD, rubber mats. Could all these add up to 95lbs more? I dont think so.
The difference (curb weight to shipping weight) is probably fuel. A full tank (20.2 gallons) would be 121 lbs. Pretty sure Ford doesn't ship the vehicles with any more than a couple of gallons in the tanks.
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Wow, that is pricey. Our 2017 MkC 2.3T AWD fully loaded was in the ~$49k, paid invoice though.
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My dealer just sent out an invitation for June 4th, unfortunately I am out of town ?
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8 hours ago, T hawker said:
Guy's, does anyone know of a web site that provides the design details of the Aviator's 3.0 TT engine? Not looking for EV details.
Thanks in advance. Steve
It is the same basic 3.0L twin turbo design that is available in the Continental and MKZ and will be in the 2020 Explorer ST and Platinum. The only unknown at this point is if it will be 400 hp / 400 ft-lbs (of the Conti/MKZ) or if it will be the 400 hp / 415 ft-lbs (2020 Explorer ST). It will not be the 2020 Explorer Platinum configuration.
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On 2/8/2019 at 7:59 PM, Wheeling said:
I was reading the specs for the new Aviator and have some confusions.
The regular Aviator has five drive modes and the GT gets additional two, Pure EV and Preserve. Easy to understand. But what if I want to use the power of both engines, which mode should be used?
Another issue is the adaptive suspension comes standard with AWD. What is the difference with the standard suspension? This is not the air glider suspension, right?
Thanks.
On 2/8/2019 at 11:30 PM, akirby said:Excite gives you both ICE and battery power at the same time for ludicrous speed. I expect Normal would switch between battery and ICE for maximum fuel economy like a regular hybrid.
Adaptive suspension changes the shock tuning electronically.
With regards to the suspension here are the options:
Standard: Four-Wheel Independent Suspension
Available on Reserve:
Adaptive Suspension (requires AWD or 22” Wheel)
— Noise Reduction Module
— Sound Insulation PackOptional Package:
Dynamic Handling Package
• Adaptive Steering
• Adaptive Suspension with Road Preview
• Air Glide Suspension with Dynamic Lower EntryLike @akirby already said, the adaptive suspension would be electronically controlled shocks. The Dynamic Handling would be the upgrade to the air ride and also adds the road preview.
For the drive modes, all of the normal modes will give you some combination of ICE and EM. The normal modes are: Normal, Conserve, Excite, Slippery and Deep Condition. Conserve will be your best fuel economy outside of pure EV with short shift points and less responsive throttle. Normal will be allow more ICE engine rev range, a quicker throttle response and wider shift points. Excite will be quickest throttle response and most aggressive use of the EM's power and torque, shifts points will keep you in the peak power band of the ICE. It will also have the firmest suspension setting. Slippery and Deep Conditions are more about the traction control and suspension settings.
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17 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said:
Yes, it actually was a really great episode. Strange one but really well done. The whole series minus some dumb parts in the first season were really great. The little I watched Top Gear I liked it but didn't watch it that much. This series kept me engaged. It a shame it's done but...we'll they are old.
The show is not ending. They are just going to no longer do the studio audience, test track, and conversation street. It will be all "specials" and adventures and documentaries.
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10 hours ago, akirby said:
Actually he’s right about that. You can drive in electric only mode for up to 25-30 miles and that’s one of the main benefits of a PHEV over a regular hybrid. That’s why I might consider one.
But he thinks the electric motor alone is insufficient for balls to the wall performance in EV mode and should provide Tesla like performance. Which completely ignores the 400 hp ICE if you really want to go fast.
If the European PHEV Explorer is the same powertrain as the Aviator GT then you won't have a 400 hp ICE. The EU Explorer was announced to have a 350 Hp 3.0L V6 with a 100 Hp (75 kW) EM, with a combined maximum torque of 620 lbft. With a small battery pack, you won't have full use of all of that horsepower and torque, which is probably why the tow rating is only 5600 lbs vs 6700 lbs on the normal Aviator. If it was just based on weight, the GT should have been rated at 5900 lbs. Conceivably, with more torque and power, it should have had a higher tow rating. I don't understand why they would derate the ICE engine at all, when it is much easier to current limit the EM to control total power and torque output. The battery issue is another thing. Seems like a bad move to not put a large enough battery in to qualify for the full tax credit and to put one in that is smaller than the new Escape PHEV's battery.
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On 3/5/2019 at 3:44 PM, msm859 said:
I hope that is the correct answer. I would prefer to have the 3.0 from the Explorer with 365 hp and have an electric motor something north of 150 hp (200+ preferred) I want a decent experience driving in all electric mode.
Well we may have our answer. 2020 Ford Explorer PHEV Revealed In Europe With 450 HP
The important takeaway is the following:
One of the most successful American large SUVs will be available on the Old Continent exclusively with a PHEV powertrain which consists of a 3.0-liter EcoBoost V6 gas engine generating 350 horsepower (261 kilowatts) and an electric motor good for another 100 hp (75 kW). The combined peak output stands at 450 hp (335 kW) and 620 pound-feet (840 Newton-meters).
Thanks to a 13.1-kWh lithium-ion battery, the massive (by the European standards) three-row SUV will be able to travel up to 25 miles (40 kilometers) on purely electric energy. Mated to a 10-speed automatic and an intelligent all-wheel drive, the Explorer PHEV will have a combined fuel consumption of 3.4 liters per 100 kilometers (69 miles per gallon) with corresponding CO2 emissions of 78 grams per kilometer. Obviously, these figures represent just the first 62 miles (100 kilometers) when the battery is still fully charged.
So I think it is safe to say the GT will be 3.0L at 350 Hp with a 100 hp EM. The real kick in the pants will be the 13.1 -kWh battery with only 25 miles range. Even the 2020 Escape gets over 14 kWh on its battery. At 13.1, the tax credit works out to $5877.70. This is a real Debby Downer.
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On 3/25/2019 at 5:36 PM, MountainGal81 said:
Hey there- thanks to both of you for taking the time to respond.
I am in fact over the 36,000 miles. My odometer currently reads 37559. So major bummer on that. I did buy an extended warranty (5year/60,000 miles) but it only covers Powertrain. So, lesson learned.
I will reach out to the dealership regarding repair support. Didn’t know that was an option. So thank you for that very helpful piece of advice!
Thanks again!
20 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:So a few things to point out. I moderate the Explorer forums and there is a ton of discussion on peas failures. I will saw that there have been very few failures in 16+ Explorers compared to 11-15. Majority of issues in early years were build issues from the supplier and had been corrected. Still, it is electronic and electronics can and will fail.
Now $2,850???? The part is under $1,000, labor is about 4 hours and you need an alignment afterwards. You should be in the neigh or of $1,500-$1,800. $2,850 is pure robbery!!
Lastly, you bought a 5yr/60k powertrain extended warranty on a vehicle that has a 5yr/60k powertrain warranty already? B2B is 3/26 but powertrain from Ford is already 5/60k. It would seem the dealer sold you an ESP that offers you NOTHING but a rental car since your coverage is included.
If you care to read through 66 pages of discussion..
So I was looking at Ford's ESP site. The PowertrainCare plan is not available for 5 years/60,000 miles, you have to go at least 6 years and at least 60,000+ miles. The BaseCare which covers components like suspension and steering and would cover the EPAS is available for 5/60,000 (minimum is 48,000 miles or 5 years). So I would look at your extended warranty and see if it is a genuine Ford ESP plan. If not, ask for a refund from the dealer or threaten legal action for selling you a warranty that doesn't provide any protection beyond the manufacturer's warranty which would constitute fraud.
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On 3/3/2019 at 9:59 PM, fuzzymoomoo said:
Towing is not the point, Performance is. You want towing with a hybrid that's what Explorer is for.
On 3/4/2019 at 8:26 AM, mustangchief said:Agree with you to a point, but an occasional tow for some of us is important. The explorer *is up to 5000 (not yet officially rated) also is not in the comfort class of Lincoln. Porsche Hybrids pull 7200lbs. For heavy jobs I have a F150. Sometimes you just like to ride in luxury pulling a boat. I was about to get a Gator, when the Aviator showed up. The performance and comfort is 90% of what I'm after. The leg and head room is virtually the same as a Gator, the performance of the GT is much better. Aviator for the win. I'm the 3rd retail order at the local dealer for a GT when the order banks open for them. I'd get the BL Flight if we had a dealer in our state.
The curb weight difference accounts for 781 lb but wonder what led to the further 319 lb reduction? The 2020 Explorer was announced as 5000 lb for the hybrid, 5300 for 2.3L EcoBoost, and 5600 for the 3.0L ecoBoost.
The tow capacities seem to be well below what other drive midsize SUV's have. Audi Q7 with the 3.0T has a tow rating of 7700 lb. The Durango is 6200 lb with the base V6, 7200 lb with the 5.7 hemi and 8400 in SRT trim. Porsche Cayenne and Range Rover are both 7700 lb (Land Rover Discovery can get up to 8200 lb). All those are with less HP/Torque than the Aviator has. I guess I expected somewhere along the lines of 7500 lb or so to be more competitive with the Q7. 5600 lb doesn't leave a lot of margin on the GT. Makes me wonder if they are derating the 3.0L from 400hp/400lbft to something less and then making up the rest with the electric motor.My main objective was to be able to tow a smallish camper or my UTV into the mountains. The UTV weights 2000 lb and with another 2000 lb for our trailer (UTV needs a 14' trailer), puts me right at 4000 lb loaded.
Would this CarFax History concern you?
in Lounge: Off Topic Discussion
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The images are probably blocked on your computer due to corporate filtering. As for the history, there is nothing on there, looks like it was bought and sold a couple of times privately, or perhaps transferred in a family. Maybe a fleet vehicle, who knows.