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  1. Get back to me when they decide to enter a race that actually requires 4x4 to do well in. The homage to Bronco history and Hall was nice, but lets be real here, most of the vehicles winning the Baja races are just rear wheel drive -- even back then it was usually VW buggies. Show us the Bronco competing in King of the Hammers.
  2. What do you really expect them to say? "We're quaking in our boots hoping we don't lose all our mall crawler sales to Ford. That's one of the few things keeping FCA financially afloat!" "We're really kicking ourselves for using the Blazer and Trailblazer names on crossovers instead of bringing the international Trailblazer to the US. Maybe we can convince people to buy Hummers again, but they'll be electric this time!"
  3. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    Oh I am? Then please direct me to the official Ford statement which describes something else as a swing gate, which might be more suitable for Bronco roof removability than what they currently describe a swing gate as ... because I am deeply concerned that the upcoming Bronco having such a swing gate will mean the roof is not really removable or competitive with the Wrangler.
  4. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    If you think I don't understand your argument, then you're missing the point. Ford could tell us what the Bronco swinggate is, if it is different than what they currently describe as a swinggate. Until then, the facts are that the Bronco is getting a device which up to this point Ford has only described as this thing which would greatly hinder the removability of the roof ...
  5. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    I'm not complaining, I just find it interesting. I don't really care for a removable roof either, but a lot of other people do, and this kind of mechanism on the back of a Bronco would severely hinder that potential. I'm choosing not to assume meaning, and taking Ford at their word. The Bronco is getting a swinggate, and the only thing Ford describes as a swing gate is something that would severely hinder roof removability... .
  6. Stampede.Offroad

    ¿Bronco Getting An Aluminum Body?

    I saw that as well, and wondered if it meant the Maverick was getting some parts there as well.
  7. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    The cargo space of a Bronco is likely to be fairly small, in either 2 or 4 door configuration. Having a tailgate that expands that functional space appeals to most people, and it is the classic/heritage design.
  8. Stampede.Offroad

    ¿Bronco Getting An Aluminum Body?

    Are those steel parts body panels, or structural members?
  9. Stampede.Offroad

    ¿Bronco Getting An Aluminum Body?

    The recent union agreement documents would seem to imply that the Bronco body is going to be aluminum ... as "Stampings for all new Broncos" are to be added to the facility that produces aluminum bodies for F150s, Superduties, Expeditions and Navigators ... . .
  10. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    Ford refers to the Bronco as having a "swinggate" in the recent union documents, and the EcoSport has a rear door referred to as a swinggate. If the Bronco was going to have a device similar to the classic EB or FSB, I would expect it to use a term similar to the pickups, "tailgate", but that isn't how they worded it -- Ranger in the same document explicitly has a different term, tailgate. If the 3rd/5th door of the Bronco was going to function substantially mechanically differently or have a substantially different form factor, I would have expected it to have a term that differentiated it from the EcoSport's "swinggate". For example the Expedition, Edge etc have a "liftgate", while its form is similar to the swinggate, it operates differently, so it gets a different term. . . . . .
  11. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    That's the point, we don't know. But I can look at what Ford is doing now, what terminology they use for that, and make a reasonable assumption that if they use the same word it will mean the same kind of device.
  12. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    Not the kind of mechanism that Ford currently refers to as a swinggate though.
  13. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    Just a copy of the Wrangler then, with perhaps a FSB style retractable window? Lots of people fondly remember truck like tailgates folding down. It would be a shame to see Bronco become a clone of the competition with a blue oval stamped on it.
  14. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    "Once I see how it works" isn't likely to be for another 8 months though. 😜
  15. Stampede.Offroad

    Bronco world premier Spring 2020!

    Interesting that they refer to the 3rd/5th door as a "swinggate" using the same terminology as the Ecosport. I get the impression that would be a very unpopular approach given it's implications for restricting how much of the roof is going to be removable. . . .
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