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  1. The Group 48 AGM is not "specified" for the vehicle but it does fit fine (with a very slight modification of the bracket) and the spare fits over it fine. I decided to go that route and paid for the "upgrade". Most of the searches I did said that would fix the problem and it has not come back even in cold nights in Tahoe. (only a few so far) I think it went to sleep one time but I expected it because I was charging several devices and listening to the radio for almost an hour without starting the vehicle.
  2. I found I was having that exact battery problem from day one on my 2023 Hybrid. I was probably driving less than you initially. (probably still not driving 60mi a day) If I did a long drive (couple hours) the symptom would resolve for a short while. Research shows that it's probably the fact that the stock 12v battery H4 is a pretty small capacity so if you stop driving, turn off the engine and sit in your car for a few minutes listening to the radio, or have the fans running, it will drain that battery real fast. It then shuts down to make sure that you will be able to power back up when you need to go again. (which is done using the main HV battery, and then it charges up the 12v battery again. The fix for me was to go ahead and pay for an AGM Group 48 battery which will hold the charge much better and is a much higher capacity battery. Have not had my vehicle to to "deep Sleep" since. Even when left out in subzero weather. I'll know even better once ski season hits because it will be in subzero weather every weekend then. And yes the Group 48 battery fits fine. You do need to bend/modify the hold down bracket to accommodate the physically longer battery but it fits fine.
  3. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    Since I installed the new Group 48 AGM I have not had the deep sleep notification. Looks like that solved it. Now if I can just figure out where to control the USB ports. The rear ones (behind the center console in the passenger area) keep going to sleep even when I'm driving.
  4. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    So I bit the bullet.. Installed an Interstate Group 48 AGM Battery in my Hybrid. Since then I have not seen any of those deep sleep mode messages. It's been about a week now. Will continue to check in as my experience grows. It was an easy fit although the cables are almost too short to make the connection. The battery hold down moved over to the other nut with no problems. Spare still fits over the top no problem, The only mechanical issue was that the "cover" that has the spare hold down bolt, had a small tab to keep the old 45AH battery from sliding over. It's pretty thin gauge metal so it was easy to gently bend out of the way.
  5. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    IIRC Convoy means it will be put on a truck at the plant. The question will be if they have enough vehicles to send the truck or will it be waiting for additional vehicles to get loaded before departing on it's "Convoy"
  6. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    Definitely sounds like a group 48 AGM is in my future. Even If I have to put it in myself. When I drove 30+ miles mostly freeway, but drove it very carefully so that I was running electric a lot of the way, it only took about 2 minutes of me listening to the radio upon arrival for my vehicle to go to "deep sleep" mode. I did get about 52MPG on the 30mi trip which was kind of cool! I would like to be able charge my phone or other items from time to time without having to start the engine up.
  7. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    I need to do more research on this but according the few articles I read, on some hybrids, While they use DC-DC charging for the 12V system, many require the ICE engine running to enable the DC-DC charge unit. If this is the case along with the small slow charging battery, it may be why I don't get enough of a charge on the 7 mile drive across the city. A couple times I drove the seven miles with about 6 miles electric. (Hybrid not PHEV) Last several blocks were in a tunnel so of course the headlights are on and downhill so I'm almost always on electric this part of the drive. As soon as I parked, the vehicle went right into deep sleep.
  8. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    Thank you for the explanation. I had not dug into the charging systems yet. That helps and explains more about why I'm seeing the behavior you mention. An AGM may be in my future. or even a LiFePO? Anyone try one of those yet?
  9. dchan

    Question about 12V Battery

    Oh. I did find this over on the Ford Escape forum https://www.fordescape.org/threads/2020-ford-escape-hybrid-replace-12-volt-battery-with-larger-group-48-agm.117248/page-9
  10. Anyone with a Hybrid or PHEV notice that if you don't do long drives, that the vehicle keeps going into "power save" or even "Deep Sleep" mode after a short drive. I suspect that the short 7-9 mile drives back and forth across town are not enough to really charge the 12V battery. Especially if I'm driving real carefully and keeping the vehicle in Electric as much as possible. There have been several times where, as soon as I park my Escape and hit the "engine off" button, it immediately goes to "power save" even after driving all the way across San Francisco. I do get the message in Ford Pass, that my vehicle's remote functions will not work, but nothing is wrong.. That it's common for this to happen when you have not driven the car in a while. When I did a long drive (380Mi round trip) the symptom went away for a couple weeks. Now it's back to doing it again right after I park the vehicle.. Guess I have to drive it harder so that the engine keeps running? Kind of defeats the purpose of driving it while trying to capture as much recovery energy as possible. but It is fun getting 50+ MPG driving the HEV across town! Can I put the 12V battery on a trickle charger at night?
  11. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Also any tests being done don't usually account for turning up the volume for road noise. especially at higher speeds. In my Van I sound proofed and deadened as many panels as I could. It's would still be a rough setup. Back in the 70's I actually had my own business installing custom sound systems in vehicles so there is a little bit of history/experience from my end.
  12. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    And by the way, most sound engineers and musicians judge sound quality by how flat the response is over the whole spectrum. Not just on how loud the bass sounds and feels. A vehicle that is a tough environment to work in along with the constraints of trying to save space means some compromises need to be made. I set up my spectrum analyzer app to listen to some jazz and classical music at a reasonable level for me and found that the playback was surprisingly flat without tonal adjustments. Not generally how most people prefer for their listening habits but a flat response tells me that the system will reproduce sounds pretty accurately presuming that you are not cranking the volume up so high as to distort the speakers
  13. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    If it's just loud bass you can feel that you are looking for, get one of these. I don't need to feel or blast my ears so not for me but.... Also I'm not willing to give up my cargo space. and most additional subwoofer /spare enclosures require the spare be flipped with the space facing up. IIRC the 12v battery is under the spare and the spare is flipped the "Wrong way"
  14. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Same here. I found it to be fine too if I wanted a traveling sound studio, I would not have bought an Escape
  15. dchan

    2023 Escape Orders & Discussion

    Yup. I don’t blast my ears to get a thump to “feel”🤣. The bass Is not as good as a real good enclosure, the balance of space gained and weight saved I think is a good compromise for me. Install an additional enclosure if the bass is not enough.
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