SLAP SPARKIE Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 We are in GEN at SLAP. We were wondering if the openings at the HVC plants were just offered to St. Louis, Atlanta, and Edison or did they offer them system wide. We heard that they offered them system wide but the enhanced moving allowance was only being offered to The first three I mentioned. If any other plants were offered these transfered we were curious. Its been to days since the deadline for signing up and we are getting no information. If they were offering these transfers system wide that would explain the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendew_15 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 We are in GEN at SLAP. We were wondering if the openings at the HVC plants were just offered to St. Louis, Atlanta, and Edison or did they offer them system wide. We heard that they offered them system wide but the enhanced moving allowance was only being offered to The first three I mentioned. If any other plants were offered these transfered we were curious. Its been to days since the deadline for signing up and we are getting no information. If they were offering these transfers system wide that would explain the delay. Sparkie the STI was offered at the first 3 locations and the bid went to only the facilities with a GEN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAP SPARKIE Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 Sparkie the STI was offered at the first 3 locations and the bid went to only the facilities with a GEN. Thanks for the info. We heard a rumor that they were offered system wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumee77 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Here at Ypsi (a ACH) plant, I put in for all the HVC places. I was not told that I couldn't and I would rather go there than a assembly plant..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendew_15 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Here at Ypsi (a ACH) plant, I put in for all the HVC places. I was not told that I couldn't and I would rather go there than a assembly plant..... You put in for it through flowback??These were bids that we received last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumee77 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Lucky you, you could bid on a job at a HVC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendew_15 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Lucky you, you could bid on a job at a HVC? Yeah they posted 14 diffrent HVC 164 opening country wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumee77 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 If bids were posted, where does that leave flowback people ??? Makes me wonder how valid any flow back "book" is ! Would you happen to know how many bids were posted for Denver ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 What about openings at the Portland, OR location? Just curious, cause NO ONE ever talks about that place, I'm not even sure it exists. Thanks P.S. I'm not in gen or on a flowback list, still working at NAP and didn't want to go to Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumee77 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 My assumption (appartently incorrect) was jobs were to be bid to the GEN at the various locations, not system wide. Meaning that people in the Gen at the facility would be offered the jobs at their facility first, then flowback people would fill the rest of the openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FADINFAST Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 What about openings at the Portland, OR location? Just curious, cause NO ONE ever talks about that place, I'm not even sure it exists.Thanks We have 9 spots open. Most people think of us as being on the edge of the universe. In some respects we are. Not a lot of attention can cut both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds650 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hey --- at my HVC plant we are getting 9 people (flowback - I guess) starting Feb. The plant posted alot of 'back up' bid jobs just recently. I call it "padding the jobs" - its WRONG. That means that the "new" people coming into our plant with high senority won't be able to get any good jos. They told us that all HVC's are doing the same thing...any truth to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FADINFAST Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hey --- at my HVC plant we are getting 9 people (flowback - I guess) starting Feb. The plant posted alot of 'back up' bid jobs just recently. I call it "padding the jobs" - its WRONG. That means that the "new" people coming into our plant with high senority won't be able to get any good jos. They told us that all HVC's are doing the same thing...any truth to that? We didnt do back up bids, but they will fill any permanent bids as they come open. Besides, its HVC, theyre all "good jobs". If you're in a small wharehouse, which almost all of the depots are, it wouldnt be too smart to piss off all the new members which would be about 20-40% of your membership, by denying their seniority based on a back-up bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendew_15 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 If bids were posted, where does that leave flowback people ??? Makes me wonder how valid any flow back "book" is ! Would you happen to know how many bids were posted for Denver ? There were 6 opening at Denver.That is the only one I put in for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra6603 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 My assumption (appartently incorrect) was jobs were to be bid to the GEN at the various locations, not system wide. Meaning that people in the Gen at the facility would be offered the jobs at their facility first, then flowback people would fill the rest of the openings. If you have the wife of a committeman going to work as a temp in production there , what do you think is going to happen every where else just watch kids , wifes , cousions, are going to show up in "ALL" plants , hvc's ect..... :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh213 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) Hey --- at my HVC plant we are getting 9 people (flowback - I guess) starting Feb. The plant posted alot of 'back up' bid jobs just recently. I call it "padding the jobs" - its WRONG. That means that the "new" people coming into our plant with high senority won't be able to get any good jos. They told us that all HVC's are doing the same thing...any truth to that? I thought I read a previous post by you that you took a buy-out and already have your check. Explain please. Edited February 1, 2007 by jh213 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendew_15 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hey --- at my HVC plant we are getting 9 people (flowback - I guess) starting Feb. The plant posted alot of 'back up' bid jobs just recently. I call it "padding the jobs" - its WRONG. That means that the "new" people coming into our plant with high senority won't be able to get any good jos. They told us that all HVC's are doing the same thing...any truth to that? What HVC are you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 What HVC are you at? He is at Ontario, California HVC....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 My assumption (appartently incorrect) was jobs were to be bid to the GEN at the various locations, not system wide. Meaning that people in the Gen at the facility would be offered the jobs at their facility first, then flowback people would fill the rest of the openings. All levels go (rather,are offered) b-4 flowbacks. This means GEN in plant, in zone, outta zone, plants closed, Mullalys niece, Bills cousin, your BC's sisters' brother-in-laws' half sister/2nd cousin. But you do get to go b-4 your son gets to be a new hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds650 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I thought I read a previous post by you that you took a buy-out and already have your check. Explain please. I did take the buyout. But my husband still works there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumee77 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 How many openings are there at Ontario? That was one of my choices !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyFSBO Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 All levels go (rather,are offered) b-4 flowbacks. This means GEN in plant, in zone, outta zone, plants closed, Mullalys niece, Bills cousin, your BC's sisters' brother-in-laws' half sister/2nd cousin. But you do get to go b-4 your son gets to be a new hire. Can't really disagree to that...but I still stand by my gut feeling that ALL will move together quickley & then they will cut back by seniority. That way two things happen in thier favor. 1. They accomplished what they promised which is flowing back people & abiding to the GEN rules 2. They wait a bit & then trim back like they planned all along Ford has never guaranteed that if you were in GEN or a flow-back the security of holding that without another lay-off. They never promised anyone in any situation ever that, so by doing the above they responded and acted on thier contract obligations regarding this downsize. For our family & many others I hope not see this. IT IS A VERY SNEAKY MOVE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds650 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 How many openings are there at Ontario? That was one of my choices !!!! 23 took buyouts. We had 12 on inverse layoff, brought them back now. 9 flowback coming in. Our volumn is way down, haven't worked a 40 hour week in probably over 6 months. Now we are going to one shift (afternoons) starting in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyFSBO Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 23 took buyouts. We had 12 on inverse layoff, brought them back now. 9 flowback coming in. Our volumn is way down, haven't worked a 40 hour week in probably over 6 months. Now we are going to one shift (afternoons) starting in March. Is this my "gut theory" taking shape then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPITYDAFOOL Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 23 took buyouts. We had 12 on inverse layoff, brought them back now. 9 flowback coming in. Our volumn is way down, haven't worked a 40 hour week in probably over 6 months. Now we are going to one shift (afternoons) starting in March. WE had over 30 people take buyouts. 10 gen workers replaced them. Some more might be on the way if they give up their restrictions. Some more (very infentesimal #) may come but, not more than 7 to 10 more or we will be back to G Time. We need more work if high seniority flowgeners are coming to our facilities. I NEED OT NOT A LAYOFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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