mcmoney28 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...UTO01/711050352 most of this stuff we already know but i saw and posted it anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimber Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If this is their core terms....my vote is a definite NO!!!!!! SCREW YOU FORD AND GETTLEFINGER!!!!! Any one who agrees to this is delutional! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zora Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Let me guess...we get all of this for $3000 signing...wait a minute...I bet we get $1500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Let me guess...we get all of this for $3000 signing...wait a minute...I bet we get $1500. Im not saying we got a good contract, but they are making a better offer to us than they did GM or Chrysler or at least what we heard so far. I wonder if it would get any better if we vote it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...UTO01/711050352most of this stuff we already know but i saw and posted it anyhow Gen is BS. $40% funding of VEBA is BS (with UAW becoming about a 16-17% shareholder in the comp.) The 2 tier if we gotta have it is actually better than what GM/Chrys got as far as present employees.I will hold judgement til I see more substance but it aint lookin good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Gen is BS. $40% funding of VEBA is BS (with UAW becoming about a 16-17% shareholder in the comp.) The 2 tier if we gotta have it is actually better than what GM/Chrys got as far as present employees.I will hold judgement til I see more substance but it aint lookin good. What scares me about the two tier is what will happen after the 20% cap is reached? Do they get bumped up to full pay? Or is that the time when they ask for a 30 or 40% cap? Then we have another issue at hand. Are there going to be quality issues among the lower tier? Does that mean big turnover? Will the lower tier people get fired for bad quality as soon as they get trained on a job? Not to mention we had TPT's quit because of being under paid at $20 an hour. Lot of questions and what if's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. D. Hogman Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 What scares me about the two tier is what will happen after the 20% cap is reached? Do they get bumped up to full pay? Or is that the time when they ask for a 30 or 40% cap? Then we have another issue at hand. Are there going to be quality issues among the lower tier? Does that mean big turnover? Will the lower tier people get fired for bad quality as soon as they get trained on a job? Not to mention we had TPT's quit because of being under paid at $20 an hour. Lot of questions and what if's. I s there a non core and core jobs like at GM and Chrysler ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I s there a non core and core jobs like at GM and Chrysler ???? According to the media, a new employee can be on the line working the job next to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daytrader millionaire Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The highlights are on the uaw website, just go to links then auto contracts its under ford hourly in pdf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman@MTP Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The highlights are on the uaw website, just go to links then auto contracts its under ford hourly in pdf. could you provide a link.... I cant seem to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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