We were promise by Ford if we bargain in Good faith 2007 n 2009

[itsmeuaw]

we open a sign agreement and gave up a lot to keep the company afloat ,and we get nothing back and we bargain in good faith,How can I ever trust Ford company again,I will not stuff monthly magazines u pass out at the plant ,yeah I take few extra but I put them in my neighbor mailboxes late at nite after working 10 hours so they can read about ford products ,not anymore ,I used to lecture neighbor about buying foreign car .No more put my time in 100 percent ,never 120 percent ever again I see quality problems will tell supervisor ,and thats it ,will not doing anymore then i am require because i need a job ,I have no more faith in unions any more ,I was born into big union family ,F@#@#@# IUAW AND ALL crooked unions all bought by the company.When I retire if I can buy new car,It will be union built but not a Ford .You drove your own people away from buying your products ,I rather paid more for GM then used my A-plan when a family ask me for A-plan ,my reply used them all up ,which is really a lie just like you did to us 2007 and tell us in 2009 to give up our right to strike and more concession ,because we can compete with the transplant we voted that down and week later you announce 2 billon profits ,then stab in the back and gave salary their concession back ,and then IUAW vote themselves a 10 percent raise for what ,they haven't done nothing for us ,just what Ford told them to do and we take care of you ,I hope you know greed is major sin .I hope all of you believe in JESUS otherwise hell is where you are going maybe your money can buy you ac down there.Just saying

Edited October 16, 2011 by itsmeuaw

[itsmeuaw]

Let me tell you people that many of the company people that come in here to stray the vote are paid people by the company. The IUAW people that come in here to try and do the same thing are paid retards sitting behind a desk at the solidarity house doing it as well.

 

A no vote is not going to hurt you and will more then anything get you more money for your hard work! Don't believe the BS that is going around in this or other forums about why we shouldn't vote no. It's all right wing propaganda, and it's just not true.

 

See the republicans already think we get paid too much, they want to tear up the unions and wants us to work for 10 bucks an hour. This will never happen. If this IUAW can't do anything for us, then I'll be placing a call to Hoffa because he gets the job done.

 

Voting NO on this deal tells our UAW leaders to go back to the table and get more money or things added to the language that is it. It doesn't mean were going on strike. None of the UNION leaders should even be talking about what they plan to do if there is a NO vote. Leaders threatening the membership of a strike or lock out need to be elected out of office.

 

Read the contract before you vote. Then read the comments written by "NO" voters, talk to retirees and vote accordingly. The NO voters are not trying to steer anyone to make a wrong choice, we are only bringing you the "cons" of the new agreement vs. the old.

 

Ask yourself this question, do you want whats happening to us happen to you next time around?

 

Protect Your Future - The Ballot Box is your Mouthpiece..

The outcome of this contract isn't going to effect wall street in the short term. Wall street is currently a big business bubble that's about to burst. Wall street is the cause of the banks holding so much cash. When people sell or drop out of investing because of the market and economy as a whole, wall street suffers the price as a whole. Only the companies with the most cash on hand will survive and Ford is one of them. They played it smart, didn't take handouts, now they need to come up with some sort of deal everyone can be happy with. The membership currently isn't happy after it was told we would be getting back our concessions once it got profitable again. They are reneging on it's promises to the workers that buy Ford products, not a good way to start 2012.

 

Your are exactly right. People need to wake up. Wall Street says this is a good deal,that ought to tell our membership that this deal sucks for us and is only good for Ford. You are so right Wall Street is about to go bust. The people of this country has done woke up and seen the truth,they are fighting back,thats why Occupy Wall Street has become a success and it will change things. The media tried blocking news coverage on it,yahoo blocked emails on it,media tried to denounce it and say it was just a hanful of young,punk kids. Well it has grown to thousands around Wall Street itself and now people in 15 other cities and states have joined in,the whole world is listening and watching and supporting the cause,cause Wall Street effects the whole world.

 

Our union leaders in no way should be strong arming us and using scare tactics for us to vote a certain way. They should be elected out of office and Im tired of not being able to vote on our IUAW reps and our President,that is such bullshit. A union is suppose to be a democracy and our Iuaw runs it like communist. Its not who is next in line for the throne,it should be who we vote in. We Americans vote for our President,Congressman,Senators,Mayors,etc... Why does our IUAW think they are so special and keep us out of the process? They decide on their own who gets brought up to an IUAW position. They vote their own raise in (just voted themselves a raise,while denying us one),hire who they want to be their secretaries (like their wives),they all get 2 pensions and make no less than 150,000 a year.

 

They are not for us,we are getting screwed and they have done nothing but use scare tactics on their membership. That is wrong..... We do have the right to denounce our union and vote in another union and all monies,assets transfer over. It is not their money it is ours,the memberships. Hoffa and Teamsters got their membership raises back in 2008 and 2009 when the economy was way worse and the auto companies was taking a bailout. Wake up people and fight.... If this is voted in,we will see our union crash. We will no longer be union. Uaw is almost broke and about to go belly up now. By next contract, their will be no UAW for us to try and get anything back if we dont stand and fight now...

 

Have any of you noticed that after a new contract passes or like back when they opened up the contract to ask for concessions and your local and IUAW would more less tell you to vote yes and then they would tell you,if you dont your plant will close,then after it passes,usually your bargaining chairman all the sudden got a spot up in International?

 

26 million to Mulally just in wages this year,56 million in stocks,24 million to Ford Jr,50+ million in stocks,not including Mark Fields that threatened to leave and go to Toyota,all of salary got raises,bonuses,their 401k matched, IUAW voted themselves a raise but we get nothing,King said no more concessions,our retirees get no xmas bonuses,no raise in pensions. They are asking us to give 10% to Veba,which will average out about 60 million a year. They got around 16 billion from Ford,11 billion from Gm plus a load of shares for the differance,which they own like 36% of GM because of it,they own like 46% of Chrysler because of it. They wasnt underfunded they got the differance in the shares for them to sell,its a conflict of interest for a union to own that much of a company when they are a union. Now they are playing corporate against their own people and still collecting money from us while more less owning the company. They are just like a CEO now. We are getting screwed people. Wake up,stand up and fight.....

 

 

Very very very well PUT MY Brother!!! This guy has it nailed..

 

I hope the membership really thinks long and hard when they write out that ballot and stuff it in the box, because if you vote yes on this deal, you can't change your vote..

 

Also if this contract passes it will be 51 percent because I have a feeling the fix is in. Now were seeing some of the plants pass it by a vagina hair.. lol this can't be happening. Someone must be jerking these numbers around.

 

I hope our membership is also counting these ballots.

 

Remember if you vote yes, you have to live with yourself the next 4 years, then maybe after a 4 year prison sentence you'll finally wake up!.

 

VOTE NO - OR LOSE MORE NEXT TIME AROUND

 

IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE A YES VOTE I WANT A LAWYER TO FILE AN APPEAL FOR A RECOUNT

If it is close, the membership has the right to request a recount and /or revote and for the ballot to be watched by a bystander or a union brother or sister that you decide. You always have that right at any election in your union to have a bystander or another union member you decide outside of your International or you local reps from who they decide who watches it or runs you voting. Use your rights... Dont let them play their same old bullshit. Read your bylaws and report to your States Labor Department..

 

Save all your flyers that your local sent out to you,thats proof. I have all mine. Copy all your locals post they put on Facebook. I did mine. Copy anything off the internet of your union saying or speaking of the contract. Remember your IUAW saved their face by calling on the local reps to do the strong arming to change your vote but we all know the truth and it will be told.

 

Watch out because we are about to shed the truth and light on you... Dont screw your own people over because it eventually always backfires. Dont think that we are a joke and dont think that we cant denounce you as our union and bring in another.

 

Remember people,all the transplants their trying to unionize are all in right to work states. It is a lost cause... They have spent over 200 million dollars of our strike fund to try and unionize these plants that are in a right to work state. Thats insane and never will happen.Michigan is getting ready to pass their state as a right to work state,if so all your union brothers and sisters up there are screwed and more less will no longer be union....

 

That is the new thing for your states and the companies that buy their political people. Do you think that if you lay down and dont fight that it wont happen in your state?

 

We have enough ammunition to fight and and let the country know the truth.. Your not alone regardless of what you hear the media says. The 99% of Americans are fed up with the greed and corruption of the companies and Wall Street (which includes our corrupt union) that they are fighting back. The smart people will back us up,if we expose the truth and go public.. Fact.. The problem is that our leaders have never went public in our defense so all they know is what the the company has told them and thats what they report. So its our time to defend ourselves against the companies (and our union) that are padding their pockets and leaving the workers out to dry...

 

We gave up everything for our company to succeed and they have and grew market share and now are making billions and paying millions back to their management. We arent greedy,we just want a little bit of the success that we suffered for it to happen..

 

We was told that Ford would hire replacemant workers and that if it didnt pass then we would be on strike for sure for at least 2 months and Ford then would file bankruptcy cause Ford would lose 6 billion in the 2 months,well supposedly Ford lost 30 billion back in 2008 and 2009 and never filed bankruptcy.. Such shit.. Why would Ford risk filing bankruptcy? All billion dollar companies do everything they can to avoid that. A company does everything they can to protect their shareholders and bondholders and bankruptcy goes against all of them. Such a crock of shit...Read about chapter 11 bankruptcy for corporations. Its the last thing they want to do..

 

Dont threaten us no votes and the yes votes will come to our side when the truth is out. Yes it might be passed at first but it will be challenged and with the truth and the media and public to see...

 

Your families future depends on the right and moral thing............

[poop]

I've posted on here when I was drunk before, but wow...just wow. You need to type your posts up in Microsoft Word and run grammar and spell check about 3 times before you post on here. If you are representative of no voters.......smh

[srpvoter]

I'm affraid this contract is going to be the best the IUAW will bargin for/Ford will give, even after their lies, (a shame), it will only go downhill from here, wait till the next contract vote in 2016. I bet our wages get refuced to 18 bucks an hour while the leaders and company execs continue to take fat cat raises and salary.

 

If your not voting NO please read the contract before you vote.

 

 

There is no reason we could have gotten 10k solid "before taxes" the retiree's x-mass bonus back, and at least 1/2 of our break time minutes given back.

 

this deal was bad and shows that our leaders are unwilling to fight for us.

 

If the contract gets opened up again in the middle, I will formally along with Gary W. call a protest out front of the international HQ..

Edited October 16, 2011 by srpvoter