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Quick question, not supporting the thread by commenting but just wondering how does a labor case from Alberta, Canada apply to the US?

I think there are two "i"s in Chuckii. LOL. And Chuckie could NEVER come up with something that sophisticated or coherent. If it involves more than selling sunglasses, copying and pasting Gary Walkowicz's letters, or rephrasing those same letters, you can count chuckles OUT

LOL. Yeah, he is sometimes humorous. I'll give him that. The thing I want to point out is that I think I basically AGREE with you, so I don't want to let you think I am Chuck and make you hate me. I want to help you with your points when we agree, and engage in respectful dialogue when we don't. Just my 2 cents and a dancing Chili pepper whaaaaaat? :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet:

I don't get this at all. Aren't we the one's bitching all the time about 2-tier? I don't have a lot of seniority, so people call me naive. Go ahead. The way I see this contract is that we sacrificed wage increase and COLA, and gained in profit share (for the majority of us that work straight time and not a lot of OT) so we could raise up the 2nd Tier and ACH people. Not only that, we can put some more people in America back to work. We can look around and see people are suffering with NO job NO benefits NO security and say, here, let me help you out. We don't have to be happy that we got no wage increase. Fuck, I'm not. I would sure as hell like to be up to 30-32/hr by the end of this contract. And the retiree thing, well that sucks. It just does. But from what I understand, the UAW is legally prohibited from negotiating for retirees. So what can we do about it, except bitch about it and find ways to support our retirees on a local level? I mean, if we are really passionate about that, we need to set up some stuff that helps them. We can donate meals or clothes or whatever. Every little bit helps somebody on a fixed income. My father retired from Ford so I know. But, to me, in the end, the vibrant debate around this contract shows one thing. We are strong. We have a voice. And we need to express it. We need to get involved in our local meetings. Because guess what? A lot of people bitch about the international people not getting elected...they get pulled up from our locals!!! If we don't elect dumbasses to the locals in the first place, they won't get pulled up to the international. That's just my 2 cents. I think we need to get more involved in our union meetings and not just involved in pissing and moaning on BON. I know I plan on doing that, and I hope the rest of you do too.

$10/hour with no benefits. The last thing Ford Motor Company offered the workers was 5 dollars a day.

LOL just because i thought it was funny about the stall thing, doesn't mean I am chucky, dude. Why whould I post "chucky greatest hits" making fun of chucky as my signature? I mean, we've all seen chucky. He has an incoherent rant that spells a shitload of words wrong and utilizes suspect grammar. That is not me. I mean, for fuck's sake, I called chucky OUT for posting his email on one of the threads where he was asking for companies to donate to the strike fund!!! If you think chucky is that smart, brother, you are giving chucky wayyyyyyyyy to much credit. Chucky is a dumbass.

You called ME chucky on a thread once before, and I think that you will understand with this post that I am definitely not the Charles in question. I think Walkowicz has his principles, but they seem to change according to what the current times are. I mean, in one of our contracts in the 90's we got 3% raises every year, and he WAS AGAINST THAT!!! I mean...cmon. I don't think this contract was the greatest, but for the times it was acceptable. Merely that. He was against the 2nd mods in 09, which I agree with. But, honestly, I think he is more concerned about building up a base of political support than he is building our union. In my opinion, he is just like a lot of posters on Blue Oval, myself included. People who are out of the loop, who think they always know better than the people who are IN the loop. Everything is possible when I'm not at the negotiating table talking to Alan Mulally getting his response to "our membership wants COLA." But, some people apparently really like him. So, it's kind of like with this vote. Do what you think is right.

Does anyone remember what turnout usually is for contract votes? I'm just curious to see if this is high, low, or on par.

Take away point for me: I am saving up my profit sharing checks over the next 4 years to buy a gatling gun. Next contract, I'll be PREPARED to strike!!! :happy feet:

LOL! I don't agree with Gary, but gotta admit that was funny. :hysterical2:

I did find it, and I apologize. Previously I was looking at their official photos that the IUAW put up, and not photos posted by other people on their wall. I think they should take it down, because it's bad form. However, it should be noted that the IUAW did not post the pic, it was some random guy that posted it to their wall. So, I'm not sure how much control they have over what other people post onto their wall. I will. however. go on record here as saying I WAS WRONG, SJOHNSON GOT ONE ON ME! HE HAD THE GOODS, AND I DID NOT!

WOW. Will you stop at nothing? Even if it wouldn't let you post the picture on this page, it WOULD let you post a LINK to the photo. However, you provide neither. I looked at the IUAW and Ford Department Facebook and saw nothing like you have mentioned. You are a liar, as you have proved many times. For anyone who would like to check the photos of the IUAW or UAW Ford Department Facebook to confirm, here are the links: http://www.facebook.com/uaw.union That's the International http://www.facebook.com/uawforddept That's the Ford Department I wish you would really quit your bullshit. Not only is it desperate and stupid. It's counterproductive to your cause, when it's so easy to prove you wrong.

Amen! I have my opinion, and other people have theirs, and I respect that. Go vote your informed decision. But I don't respect people who spread lies and half truths.

Maybe not anymore!! the "haves" at DTP certainly helped out the "have nots"