Ford Jellymoulds Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) After three years every single car that use the United Kingdoms roads has to undergo a comprehensive MOT roadworthiness test once every year, for the first time ever the results were published on the results of MOT findings. JD Power Owners surveys only uses a sample of thousands, this is a comprehensive roadworthiness test report of millions carried out by ,every single car registered on UK roads between 1980-2008 fed back though a database by Motor Mechanics of faults found & MOT test pass and failure rates. Rolls Royce king of the roads its drivers were found to driving around in the least defective, cars with least faults & most roadworthy cars of the millions MOT tested in 2011, well apart from those in 1980. Rolls Royce was found to have the least defects, least faults the most roadworthy of the millions of all British cars that were registered between 2008 when they were tested in Britain's MOT garages by Motor Mechanics in Britains 2011 comprehensive MOT tests. LINK 2008 newest registered Saints & Sinners list of the mass produced cars league table, all 267,727 Ford cars from Ka to Galaxy registered MOT test results can be found by clicking on Ford. Chrysler models were one of the most fault/defect ridden unroadworthy by Mechanics on Britains roads. Funny how clusters of cars made by the same group are in close positions in the chart, MOPAR, VW group cars Seat - Skoda- VW meaning they are designing in the same rates of design flaws. Suzuki surprised me the most, as l did not think they made very good cars. Skoda & BMW owners who rate their cars so highly in JD Power Surveys, are found to have a lot more defects and faults when looked at by a motor mechanic in a MOT, I think BMW are overrated as they were found to be defect ridden nothing special, Japanese brands do well in the chart once the mass producers start to appear on the list. LINK TOP 50 1980-2008 Models found to be most roadworthy with least defects & faults found by Mechanics. Newer Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Corvettes & Ferrari the least fault ridden cars on UK. LINK Worse 50 1980-2008 Models most defect & fault ridden as found by Mechanics. LINK Every single car on UK roads, brand/model car 1980-2008 MOT roadworthiness test pass rates. LINK Best ever year for Ford cars with least defects & faults that were found to be the most roadworthy in 2011 MOT tests, was the oldest year reported registered, in1980 most reliable cars list 32 year old cars, Fords got 3 of the top 4 models on the 2011 MOT list the RWD Escort 1st, RWD Cortina 3rd & RWD Capri 4th were the most reliable of all brands/models on test for that year. No Rolls Royce, Ferrari or Aston Martin can beat a trusty old RWD Old Skool Ford when in comes to roadworthiness, few faults and defects. Great to see these old Ford in such good condition and putting Ford top of the class for 1980 registered cars taking the MOT test in 2011. Ford sure was at its best back then when they designed really great cars & great to see Ford coming tops, Ford "broke the mould" when they made them. LINK Edited May 13, 2012 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 And this is in the Ford Motor Company discussion forum because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) With tests on nearly 25 million cars thats EVERY CAR on the road in Great Britain registered between1980-2008 MOT tested by motor mechanics in 2011, gotta say that a lotta FORD test data hidden in there to be read on roadworthiness,defects & fault failure rates of cars once when they are properly looked over by professional motor mechanics in a MOT. So much more comprehensive than small tiny bits of data thrown up in a tiny JD Power survey that are posted before on BON with no complaints. BMW/Skoda Owners seem to overrate their cars in JP Power surveys are inaccurate, because when the thorough MOT test of 25 million cars is carried out in this survey Motor Mechanics don't rate them the same the cars are found to be a lot more defective. Data involves There remains more than 150,000 cars on the road that were registered in the 1980s. Out of all cars registered in the 1980s, rather surprisingly it's the Lotus Esprit that comes out on top. A 1987-registered Lotus Esprit has the best MoT pass rate of any car of the 1980s, with 87 per cent. That said, only 60 went through the test. When it comes to the 1990s, there are still 4.6 million cars going through the MoT. The car with the highest pass rate is the 1999 Rolls Royce Silver Seraphwith 96 per cent (second goes to the 1998 Silver Seraph). Other names taking the top spots are the Lotus Esprit (again), MG RV8, Ferrari 360, Bentley Arnage,Chevrolet Corvette and the Honda NSX. Restrict the search to more than 1000 tests and the Toyota Starletputs in an appearance amongst models from Porsche, Lotus and Mercedes-Benz. Then there's the 2000s, which as you'd expect, account for the highest number of MoT tests, despite only running until 2008. There are almost 20 million tests and it's this decade that best reflects what's on the roads now. You'll see everyday cars mixing it with those that cost more than £100,000 new. Topping the decade-wide table is the Aston Martin Vantage, though the appearance of the Suzuki Splash in fourth shows that owning a car that that's highly likely to pass its MoT needn't cost a small fortune. Click on the links below to find out how specific models perform in that year: LINK No marketing department bull crap from VW/Audi on how wonderful their cars are. No Auto Express power survey bulls crap here where Skoda owners vote their cars as mechanically brilliant, the best whilst driving around with lots of un roadworthy defects they don't know about, when they come to get an MOT on their Skoda its found to be riddled with defects by neutral motor mechanics trying to keep cars safe on UK roads. This is a more accurate guide to how certain brands are more defective than others. Expensive BMW's are just an average rated car full of defects, not worth the top quality money you for pay it? With nearly 25 million cars tested in a MOT in 2011 by law, in great depth by a professional Motor Mechanics you won't find a more comprehensive test on a car for roadworthness, defects and faults in the UK, that tests every single car used on UK roads registered between 1980-2008. Edited May 13, 2012 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 And this is in the Ford Motor Company discussion forum because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 And this is in the Ford Motor Company discussion forum because? Because Ford's on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Hi Ed, it for folk that love Ford cars, of which l own two and love them both to bits. Post good news on Ford cars like those registered in 1980 that were found to have less defects than any other brand/model on UK roads. Old Skool Fords which l like, beat BMW Mecedes Benz, Rolls Royce, Toyota Honda with their bomb proof build quality that all Ford fanboys should be very proud of Ed. I can't thank Ford enough ford making such awesome cars. Britains Top 10 1980 best 32 year old cars in 2011 MOT tests, the most roadworthy cars with least found defects/faults. 1. Ford Escort 2. Porsche 911 3. Ford Cortina 4. Ford Capri 5. Reliant Scimitar 6. Porsche 924 7. Truimph TR7 8. MG MGB 9. MG Migit 10. Truimph Dolimite Britains Top 10 2008 best cars in 2011MOT tests on 3 year old most roadworthy cars with least found defects/faults. 1. Rolls Royce Phantom 2. Lamborghini Gallardo 3. Bentley Continetal 4. Aston Martin DBS 5. Aston Matin Vantage 6. Lexus LS 7. Daihatsu Materia 8. Bentley Arnage 9. Porsche Caymane 10. Bentley Continetal GT Best rated cars in MOT tests 1980-2008 all years with lowest MOT failure rates for defects in 2011. 1. 1999 Rolls Royce Silver Seraph 2. 2004 Ferrari 360 3. 2005 Rolls Royce Phantom 4. 2008 Rolls Royce Phantom 5. 2007 Rolls Royce Phantom 2007 6. 2008 Lamborghini Gallardo 7. 2007 Aston Martin DB9 8. 2004 Aston Martin Vanquish 9. 2001 Chevrolet Corvette 10. 1998 Rolls Royce Silver Seraph 1980 RWD Fords were "simply the best" as tested by the British Motor Mechanics nothing else beats an old Ford they beat everything Roll Royce, Ferrari's & Aston Martins don't wear well once they reach 32 years old, Ford "broke the mould" Ed. Edited May 13, 2012 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The Ford Escort is FWD, doesn't that ruin your world view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 That was then, this is now. The vast majority of today's used sales are post-Nasser product. It's a new era. 32 years ago, there were a lot fewer luxury badges imported into the UK, so it's no surprise that testing 32 year-old survivors shows a domestics and Porsche complement. Jeez, a road-worthy TR-7? Will wonders never cease? That sumbitch has been constantly cared for, and probably de-Lucassed. Yo, Autolite. Contrast with the international panoply of badges of recent product, all luxo high-tech engineering and manufacturing, except for whatever the hell the Daihatsu is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 You want to know the major flaw in this survey? This is not a measure of quality, reliability or dependability. This is a survey of the quality of maintenance matched with the overall maintainability of the vehicle, which is heavily influenced by the aggregate age of the fleet. The obvious conclusion of this survey is that specialty and collector cars are better maintained than run-of-the-mill fleet. A similar survey of all the winters experienced in South Dakota over the last 32 years revealed that they are generally cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 A similar survey of all the winters experienced in South Dakota over the last 32 years revealed that they are generally cold. How much were you payed to say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Exactly! Because if somebody gets paid for a survey, the conclusions are automatically invalid, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) This is a comprehensive detailed snapshot of the mechanical condition of every single car made between 2000-2008 in 2011 manufactured between, and fed back via to the British Gvernments BASIC LIST OF ITEMS CHECKED WHICH EXPANDS OUT INTO DEEPER CHECKS IF FAULTS ARE FOUND. Inside the car Anti-lock braking system (if fitted) Warning lamp is checked for: • Function. • Sequence of operation. Footbrake • Reserve travel on the footbrake so that it does not go down to the floor • Pedal rubber not worn to excess • Correct operation of the servo assistance system. Reserve brake This could be a handbrake or a footbrake. Checked for reserve travel so that it does not reach the stops on application. The mountings will be checked for security and /or corrosion. Under bonnet checks • Master cylinder and servo unit are checked for fluid leaks with the engine on and the brakes applied. • Servo unit will be checked to ensure it is operating correctly. • Visible metal or flexible brake pipes will be checked for corrosion, condition, breakages or leaks. Under Vehicle checks With an assistant applying load to the footbrake: • Flexible brake pipes and any other metal brake pipes visible beneath the car are checked • Disks and drums checked for condition and contamination • Brake back plates and calliper securing devices are checked for condition and security • Condition of the brake pads will be checked if visible • An assistant operates the handbrake while the condition of the linkages and/or cables is checked. • On some vehicles there will be a brake compensating valve beneath the car which will need to be inspected for fluid leaks Brake performance check The performance of the front and rear brakes will be checked for efficiency and balance using specialised equipment. DOORS Both front doors must be capable of being opened from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely. Tailgates, bootlids etc. All these items, including the tailboards and dropsides of trucks must be capable of being secured in the closed position. EMISSIONS These are checked using specialised equipment, the details of the check depending on the year that the vehicle was first used on the road. Excessive smoking is a reason for failure. Diesel emissions are checked by using a smoke meter. FUEL SYSTEM Any fuel leak will result in a fail. Checked under the bonnet and throughout the run of the fuel line from the fuel tank to the engine. • The fuel filler cap must fasten securely • The seal in the cap must not be torn, deteriorated or missing • No other defect should be present which could cause fuel to leak out. HORN • Operation. • Control should be easily reached by the driver. • Volume must be sufficiently audible to pedestrians and other vehicles. • The tone should not consist of a sequential multi-tone. LIGHTS All required lights are checked for: • Operation. • Condition. • Security. Side lights and headlamps: • Acceptable make/model. • Dip and aim must be within specified perameters Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights* • Acceptable make/model • Lights,indicators and hazard lights must not interfere with each other whilst in operation. • Indicators, stop lights and hazard warning lights function. Rear fog lamps** • Must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle. • Tell-tale must work. • Must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured. • Must be red. Number plate lamps All original lamps must be fitted and working. Rear reflectors There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured. * Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested. ** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980. MIRRORS * Amended by admin due to change in regulations 17th Sept 09 * Any mirrors fitted at the factory must be present and undamaged at time of test. REGISTRATION PLATES AND VIN* (Vehicle Identification Number) For registered vehicles the plate must be: • Present • Secure • Not faded, dirty or obscured • Be composed with correctly formed letters and spacing The VIN number must be • Permanently displayed • Consistent · Legible. * Required on all vehicles first used on or after 1st August 1980. SEAT BELTS Most vehicles after 1965 must have seat belts, irrespective of that requirement, all seat belts fitted to any vehicle must be inspected for: • Security of seat belt mountings and locking stalks • Security and operation of the locking/release mechanism • Condition of webbing • Retraction of the belt (it is permissable to manually feed it in). Notes: 1 For technical reasons the inertia locking mechanism is not checked. 2 On some vehicles the belt is attached to the seat, in which case the security of the seat to the vehicle would also constitute part of the seat belt check. SEATS • The driver's and the front passenger's seats must be secure • All seat backs must be securable in the upright position. STEERING Inside the car checks • Steering wheel and steering column: • Steering wheel condition • The steering wheel must be securely attached to the steering shaft • The upper bearings of the steering column are inspected for wear • The steering shaft is checked for excessive end float • Clamping bolts security • The split pins and locking nuts • The 'free play' in the steering • Flexible couplings and universal joints. Under the bonnet checks Vary according to the vehicle; Some of these items cannot be observed from under the bonnet on some makes and models. However in all cases checks will be made for: • The security of the steering rack or steering box and its mountings • Any discernible play in the steering joints • Swivel joints which form part of the steering system which can be readily inspected from under the bonnet will obviously be inspected. • Whilst the vehicle stands on special Swivel plates the wheels are turned from lock to lock and checked to ensure that wheels and tyres do not foul of either the structure of the vehicle or any brake pipes or hoses. • Wheel bearings are checked. • Steering rack gaiters/front outer constant velocity joint boots are examined. • Metal and rubber bushes are checked as Under vehicle checks • All the steering joints. • Power steering systems. • Security of attachment of the steering rack or steering box is checked both with respect to tightness of the nuts and bolts, and structural cracking or corrosion of the vehicle chassis where it is attached. • Also, split pins/locking nuts and other locking or retaining devices relate to steering components. Some cars have an element of rear wheel steering which is checked from beneath the car. The front suspension is checked, but also the rear for: • Excessive wear to wheel bearings • Condition of front drive shafts/CV joints. SUSPENSION Under bonnet checks • Upper suspension joints • Any other suspension components which can be inspected from beneath the bonnet Under vehicle checks Both the front and rear suspension are checked to ensure. • No split pins or nuts missing, no components broken or bent • Road springs function effectively, no excessive wear • Suspension joints function effectively, no excessive wear • Shock absorbers must not leak and must be secure (the vehicle will be 'bounced' by the Tester to check that they damp the springs adequately). Suspension is checked for wear by the assistant applying loads in various ways with the wheels jacked up whilst the Tester observes the result from beneath the vehicle. TYRES/WHEELS Tyre condition A failure with respect to tyre wear will result where:- The grooves of the tread pattern are not at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising: • Central 3/4 of the breadth of tread • Entire outer circumference of the tyre. Tyres must be correctly matched with regard to: • Type • Size • Structure • Location on the vehicle with respect to the axles. Also examined: • General condition of tyre • Condition of valve Tyres fail if they have serious cuts, bulges or other damage. The wear on the tyre is checked with a tyre tread depth gauge to ensure compliance. The tyres are examined to ensure that there is no fouling with any part of the vehicle. Note: The condition of the spare tyre is not part of the MOT. Wheel condition Inspection to reveal: • Damage • Distortion • Cracks • Distorted bead rims • How securely attached to the vehicle • No wheel-nuts or studs missing An externally fitted spare wheel or spare wheel carrier must not be so insecure that it is likely to fall off. VEHICLE STRUCTURE Body condition and security • The vehicle body must not insecure or displaced so as to constitute a risk of loss of control of the vehicle when driven, or a danger to other road users. • There must be no dangerous sharp edges or projections caused by corrosion or damage Corrosion A vehicle can fail with respect to corrosion for: • Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area' - within 30 cms of certain components, e.g. brakes, steering, suspension, seat belt mountings etc. • Excessive corrosion in a 'prescribed area', but which is likely to adversely affect the vehicle's brakes or steering. Note 'Excessive corrosion' can mean a hole or a significantly weakened structure. WINDSCREEN The inspection has to ascertain all items affecting the driver's view of the road: the condition of the windscreen, the wipers and washers. 1980 RWD Escorts were hero's for Ford, it was No1 the most least defective car in the UK in its last year of production 2000 FWD Escorts had fell to zero and ruined Fords reputation it was the No 186 least defective car in its last year of production, Ford's Ranger was Ford highest place vehicle at No 122 2008 Ford Fusion (Old Fiesta platform based) was the newest highest place new Ford car at No 78 for 2008 registered cars undergoing their first MOT in 2011. Britains Top 10 1980 best 32 year old cars in 2011 MOT tests, the most roadworthy cars with least found defects/faults. 1. Ford Escort 2. Porsche 911 3. Ford Cortina 4. Ford Capri Those were the days when Ford RWD cars were tops for design, These top quality Fords "broken the mould". 25,000,000 2011 MOT tested 1980-2008 registered cars UK cars inspected looked in minuted detail in every nook & cranny by Britains Motor Mechanics, with defects/fault, things like exhaust emissions readings of every single car is now fed back though to British Governments Database 29,000 Auto Express Owners Survey is next biggest report back on faults/defects survey. Edited May 18, 2012 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Again, this is a check of how well these vehicles are MAINTAINED. It is not a measure of how many times any of these things have failed, but whether they have been fixed. It is a curiosity, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I am, therefore, changing the title to "Most comprehensive roadworthiness inspection report ever....." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) Do we need another thread on this? And for crimminy sakes, FJ, for the 17,000th time, shorten your frackin' signature. Edited May 21, 2012 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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