vipersinu2 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Not sure, but I think the turbowaste gate is rattling, just turned 12k miles. Any opinions? Or is this normal? Edited April 5, 2020 by vipersinu2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Normal. Check this thread. A couple of us posted videos. Goes away after about 50 seconds or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Also, just curious, how did you first hear this noise? I can only hear it if I remote start from a cold start as you did. I can't hear it from inside the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 We found it by dumb luck, the truck hasn't been started in 2 weeks b/c of covid. Here is another video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Did you read through that other thread? Seems to be normal and goes away after about a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 That rattle is constant even after a 30 min ride, the rattle does not go away, The passenger turbo is not rattling, just the driver side turbo. I re-read that post. It seem there is another rattle for 60 seconds that clears up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Okay. Does not sound normal. Why were the cam phasers replaced so soon? Was that a warranty item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 Yes covered under warranty, only 10k on truck. Barely broken in. lol I guess the cam phasers were not designed properly, from what I see on YouTube there is a plastic pin in the cam phaser that fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Oh, I hadn't heard of that issue with the cam phasers on the EB. Was wondering if you had replaced with aftermarket, but I am guessing not. Hope your dealer gets it sorted out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) I brought truck down to dealer, They stated that 3 have 3 bran new raptors making the same noise and they dont know where the nose is coming from. Edited May 1, 2020 by vipersinu2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 18 hours ago, vipersinu2 said: I brought truck down to dealer, They stated that 3 have 3 bran new raptors making the same noise and they dont know where the nose is coming from. On an aviation forum I'm on, a guy has a Raptor. He says his new Raptor and our new Navigators should have the new, redesigned phasers that fix the problem of the plastic pin failing. This thing is a head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 So the dealership picked up the truck this morning. I went by about 3pm to see what is going on. I seen the truck in the bay. I asked the technician what he found. He stated he was waiting for cold start tomorrow I asked if I can show him the rattle. I started the truck and reved it up. The tech heard the rattle and went right to the wastegate and disconnected the electrical connector and the rattle stopped. For sure we know its the turbo. Now the waiting game to see why and what the fix is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 The dealership is installing a new turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Got a new left turbo, The right turbo is slightly rattling. I guess not bad enough to replace. I will do a cold start video tomorrow. Edited May 8, 2020 by vipersinu2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 Cold start, i cant believe the rattle is still there. The passenger turbo is rattling. Nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Oh man I check the oil level, the dealer never replaced the oil that dripped out when they replaced the turbo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 If this site allowed videos and pics of any size, I would post the one I took just now. Cold start, mine makes the same racket. Goes away at just around 55 seconds every time. Sorry, not going to start a YouTube channel so I can post the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Black Label, Do you think its the turbos? I have read in the raptor forum, That a few guys got both turbos replaced and they have not had a problem scince. I am wondering if we got a bad batch of turbos? Are you going to address that noise with the dealer on your next service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, vipersinu2 said: Black Label, Do you think its the turbos? I have read in the raptor forum, That a few guys got both turbos replaced and they have not had a problem scince. I am wondering if we got a bad batch of turbos? Are you going to address that noise with the dealer on your next service? I don't hear it normally. I was only listening to see if mine sounds similar. It was either on this forum or over on the Lincoln forum where the same issue was asked about. I have listened a few times on cold starts. Always sounds the same. I'm guessing it is just a normal sound until something happens that makes the noise go away. I was not planning on having it addressed because I don't think it's an issue for me. Does yours stop right around a minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Lol, it would be nice if any other Navigator owner would comment as to what theirs sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) On my truck, for sure I had excessive waste gate rattle. Once the tech unplugged the electrical connector the rattling went away. This will show you whats happening. Odd the turbos are failing so quickly. Edited May 10, 2020 by vipersinu2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes, I think I posted that video somewhere else. Mine is brand new. I don't have the rattle he shows on the deceleration. When Brian starts up the vehicle after the turbo replacement is what mine sounds like. He has worked on my Expedition btw. What happens at the dealership when other Navigators are starts, or have they done that for a comparison? Did you get the P0299 code he mentions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Watched your video above again. Sounds like the similar thing as mine. Gets much quieter after around 55 seconds, unless I am hearing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I wish I was more help to you, and I wish someone else would chime in. Hope you get this figured out. It does sound rattly when you punch the accelerator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipersinu2 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes I noticed the rattle when going thru the drive thru at the bank, i guess being so close to the wall amphlied the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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