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I see "Red Candy Metallic Tinted Clearcoat" is an option again via Build & Price. Hopefully I'm not getting some bastardized color...

Thanks for the info. I'll report back once it comes in. Hopefully soon. Justin

My order confirmation says RZ. Will the new Red Candy (RZ) be metallic? Thanks, Justin

Hi, I ordered a 2012 SE hatch in Red Candy on July 5th. Initially, there were not accepting orders for Red Candy because of the Japan situation. When we ordered the salesman told us that they had a replacement color that would be indistinguishable from the Red Candy Metallic that we've seen. Now I see that Ford pulled Red Candy (and others) completely. I've heard others speculating that my "Red Candy" will be the same color but will not have the metallic flake. Can anyone confirm this? Also, will the metallic colors return at any point? Thanks, Justin

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Does anybody know if the improvement in mpg will lower or eliminate the gas guzzler tax for the GT500?

The fact that the Japanese government is giving Toyota a $2 billion bailout for consumer lending in the US speaks for itself. If most of the profits were staying in the US why would Japan care so much about Toyota's bottom line?

Really? Explain to me how you can a gallon of gasoline for $2/gallon when the price of a barrel of oil is $140+ and there are only 42 gallons of crude in a barrel. Or would you have them sell based on their costs of acquiring the oil when they could sell it on the market for full price? Why would a business (or anyone) do such a thing? The only thing ludicrous here is your statement.

Anyone?

Does anyone know when the Escape/Mariner is getting SYNC? Some guy in an Edmunds forum stated that it would be available on '08 models actually built in '08. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

dfs - I'm pretty sure it's a tax CREDIT, not deduction, so you'd actually save the full $3000 in taxes. Unless of course, you get hit by the AMT.

Thanks akirby, that worked! It looks like... Total MSRP - $48,440.00 X Plan Price - $44,179.00 So basically, I think I'm better off with the $4400 off MSRP that the dealer is offering because then I can also use the AQHA rebate. 48,440 MSRP (4,400) "Dealer discount" (500) AQHA (4,000) rebate (or 0%) (1,000) bonus cash $38,540 Actually, with fees and stuff the X-plan is probably a wash ... like you said earlier. Thanks again.

Is there similar link for Lincoln vehicles? Thanks.

Correction: The bonus cash is actually $2,007 (the ad in the paper was a mis-print). Does anyone know what the x-plan price on this truck would be? Or how I could find out? Thanks. Justin

With VIN: 5LTPW18507FJ09887 Monochrome Elite 20" wheels chrome bed rails limited slip Otherwise, does anyone know if I'd be better off negotiating a price on my own? My local dealer is advertising $4400 off MSRP BEFORE the rebates. They also list $2700 bonus cash plus 0% or $2500. I also qualify for the AQHA $500 rebate. Thanks so much! Justin

Long time reader, first time poster. I just wanted to share my experience with the dealers while looking for a crossover for my buddy. He started by limiting his choices to the Mazda CX9, Ford Edge, Pontiac Torrent, Nissan Morrano, and Toyota Highlander. His budget was 28k. First we looked at the CX9. The dealership had just gotten their first shipment of them and it was prominently displayed on the new and modern showroom. We went for a test drive and they pulled up a Grand Touring model for us to try out. He liked it a lot but it was a little pricey so I told him to check out the Edge next. We went to a Ford dealership down the road. My first impression was that it felt like being transported back in time to 1970 because the building was so dated and smelled like my grandma's basement. No big deal though, we just wanted to see the Edge. They had one in the showroom, but unfortunately it was an SE. My friends initial impression was that it wasn't even in the same league as the CX9 because was so stripped. I told him that its the same platform and drivetrain as the CX9 so he should wait and look at another model. This is where it gets unbelievable. We asked if we could Drive an SEL or SEL+ because those were the packages we were interested in. They told us that we could LOOK at an SEL, but we couldn't drive an SEL because "it would be a shame to put miles such a nice new vehicle." My jaw dropped but my buddy didn't really care because he the salesperson said it "drives exactly the same as the SE." Granted this is mostly true. But he specifically mentioned wanting leather and the Vista roof. Needless to say, he was not impressed with the SE (though he did note that it felt "faster" than the CX9). My friend is not an auto enthusiast so the little things were a huge factor in his decision. Long story short, he eventually ended up getting an Edge SEL, from another dealer, and only because he was persuaded into going back to look at the SEL with comparable options as the other vehicles he looked at. The other dealer was excellent. They located an SEL with leather and the roof and even letting him take it home overnight. My point is that the first Ford dealer nearly ruined the possibility of my friend purchasing a Ford. I know having a poor dealer network has been a theme on this board for a while now so I just wanted to echo that with my experience. FYI - He eliminated the other vehicles because... The CX9 was close but a little pricey and he didn't need a third row The Morrano didn't look as cool as the Edge The Highlander was boring and expensive The Torrent was a POS The Edge was nearly eliminated because the second row didn't slide forward, but fortunately the seating package he got included the power seat fold down so that made up for it. Take it for what it's worth.