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These clowns are idiots just ignore them. You know they got plastic surgery to fix ugly but they haven't figured out how to fix stupid yet. If they do find a way to fix stupid I bet ford will allow the procedure with no deductible! Its a good contract don't worry their wives will tell them they better vote for it. Usually the big mouths like that don't even run their own household.

Hey crybaby. Would you like to play a game?

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Your local Union should have that info. I was just curious of the hourly to salaried ratio in the plants. A rule of thumb is there should be 20 salary for every 100 hourly employees.

I would like to know what the number of salaried and hourly employees at your plant.

You guys and gals should all suck Cock. Your chairman is a Hero and y'all re-elected him. Shut the Fuck up and get to work. I guess only the whiner's in Lima are computer literate. Suck it up and be happy you have work. The International UAW wouldn't take away Lima's shining star chairman. They are waiting on the next young American idol to come from the underground and lead them into the next decade. Gas is only $4.00 a gallon how long do you think it will be before we are all riding bikes like a third world nation. NAFTA works it brings us down to a third world pay grade. Free trade means lower wages. yes we will catch up to the Mexicans. Hey at least the Canadian government looks out for their workers.

What a idiot you read to much into the bullshit contract letters they all have a easy-out loophole based on volume and market share. Anyone with any brains should know that Cleveland got its turn sending a person to national negotiations. Any national negotiator gets a special letter so they can go back to their local and tell them what a great job they did in negotiations. Guess who's turn it is next contract??? Ford will do whatever is in their best interest in North America. And as long as the work stays in the States the UAW will not bitch who gets the work between Cleveland and Lima. It will all be based on productivity and cost. Try and file a grievance on a letter of understanding. To the lazy whiners in (lepskilledtrades) skilled trades get real it is time to step up and secure all jobs for UAW members (including production Jobs), so don't think you are going to set your lazy ass in a break room waiting for something to brake. Get out on the floor and do your fair share you are not better than any other person in this society we live in. We all put our pants on the same way. Do what ever it takes to be productive and make your local management accountable for their shitty decision's and mistakes.

Lets see laggard, 20+ years before Ford that must make you in your late 50s or 60s unless you have no seniority at Ford then you might be in your late 40s with maybe 5 or 6 years seniority maybe less. What did you do, hit the Ford hiring lottery or are you a salary or Union reps relative. A pussy like you would never be able to be a boss on any work site. No real blue collar worker would have any respect for your lazy ass. I bet you are a lazy lamb can you say Baa Baaa follow the herd asshole. I can tell by your grammar and use of words that you are not near as educated as you claim to be. I'm sure you were somebody's bitch on the job site, if you even did work construction. I know the trades are blue collared workers and we are proud of our skills and work ethic. You are a lazy whiner, go away. Look at how many posts you have compared to me and tell me who spends all their time on the computer dip shit.

" I can't died in the Poor house" Is that you?? Is your name Ican't??? Moron's, you lazy fucks couldn't find your ass with both hands. I'm embarrassed to be in the same union with Fucks like you. Although it is fun to watch a bunch of lazy assholes sit around on a computer sit and bitch about how bad they have it making $32.00 an hour with world class benefits. I bet all of the whiners on this forum couldn't hold a candle to a real blue collar worker (their job is about pride and true skill). You should be ashamed of yourselves. How long have you been a journeyman lepskilled trades?? Have you worked anywhere other than Ford?? I hope I get your lazy ass out on a construction site someday. Your lazy ass would be back at the hall signing the book so fast your head would spin. The lazy assholes are always signing the book. Real workers hate laggards. You are a insult to the real blue collar workers of the world. I love the Unions and all of the workers in it. But I am so tired of whiny crybabies that cannot hold a real workers tool-belt. What do you think you are entitled to?? What knowledge do you posses that others that have come before you didn't know?? Absolutely nothing I am sure. I work hard and am proud of it no matter the job given to me. I am proud to work with other people that love to do a great job and take pride in it. A very smart woman once said " I can't died in the Poor house" ask yourself is that you?? Put up a wall and I will knock it down. If the Economy collapsed right now you would not be able to support your family, survival of the fittest would prevail and you would be laying on a slab. I bet you have never even had the balls to leave your own state much less the country. I am very upset at the concessions we have had to give, but guess what I adapt and overcome and pack it right back up the stupid mis-management (salary) peoples asses. I am important to them because I have skills and I try to do the best job I can no matter what. Can you say that?????

What work is Ford bringing in contractors to do that skilled trades are losing work on in your plant??? Skilled Trades are already doing the tear out of the old V-6 when that is done what are they going to do with all those people?? I hope they dont get their two transfer offers real quick after entering protected status. Production people I hope they realize that we cant wait in cleveland for you to turn down your local agreement. Fill us up we will take all the D35 work. Hopefully you can transfer here instead of a Body and Assembly where plant they do alot of physical work each day. Ask some of the old timers that worked in them during the 80s. Oh ya Im starting to feel the Love.

Get real their is so much space (Loopholes) in the language in the National Contract to let Ford do what ever they see fit with all employees including the so called prima donna skilled trades. I can tell that you never had to argue contract or a grievence. If you dont like the contract you can go bend conduit and pull wires for the IBEW or a non Union shop for less money. Go ahead and turn down a local agreement, International will not authorize a strike and you will work under the old agreement and watch your machinery get sent to another plant. But hey if you have more senority then the ACH employees maybe you can transfer and follow your machines to another plant. Ford will not invest in a plant with labor problems and the International Union will not make them. Everything in the National agreement is based on Market Volume and sales. If sales and the volume of the auto market keep going down all bets are off you know volume related layoffs. If you turn down the National or local agreement your plant will be on the hit list also. Ford wants plants that want to compete with the world you can be part of the solution or the problem this is your choice. Just ask the GM or Chrystler employees that are laid off now.

They would have made money but they had to pay all their overpriced Executives bonuses for Screwing the working man.

Appendix I - Dipshit the local can shove anything they want in you for new work. Get real the contract is setup to change at a moments notice. If the elected leadership thinks they can screw another local to get new work they can do it under appendix I of the National Contract. Their are many more unpublished letters of understanding that you will never see why do you think the UAW never made Ford live up to their obligations under the old Job Security program GEN.

Group 99 better known as Skilled Trades. How will you like being laid off to the street while Ford adds a bunch of the $14.00 an hour two tiered workers. You will not have a choice. If you do not have any production time you will not work at Ford. By this agreement Ford will be able to effectively Layoff Skilled Trades employees to the street that do not have production time and hire new employees under the two tiered system and have them do your job while you are laid off by calling it a breakdown and using them under the helping hands concept. Contractually by keeping all of the skilled classifications and not combining them they can layoff all but one of each classification and all of the Laid off skilled trades employees go to the street and Ford can still hire new employees to do production work at the $14.00 an hr scale. This is a fact and it was used in the contract when Chrysler sold out to General Dynamics. They cut out the Skilled Trades except for one in each trade and were able to hire from the street without recalling skilled tradesmen in similar classifications. Get ready, Ford considers skilled trades to be non-core. Ford will contract out most all of the maintenance to their vendors and we (Skilled Trades Group 99) will be on the street. If you do not have production time you will have no chance to keep your job under the new agreement. If you have 20 or 25 years seniority and no production time you are screwed. Vote no or lose your job. Make Ford protect all current employees before they can hire under the two tier system. This is wrong seniority should count for something. Vote NO and make them respect seniority. Cut out 50 percent of Mulallys and Fields corporate jet vacations and it will pay for us keeping our jobs in skilled trades or production.

Im sure that Ford hired a big marketing consulting firm to tell them what kind of shit to release to the press to help pass a national contract. Im sure all the Comp Execs and Union Bosses are shitting their pants seeing this close of a Vote at Chrysler.