justnthrmushroom

Can anyone confirm or deny that the Local 1520 hall is for sale or sold?

Same story at STAP. Little to no parts available in stores and running out of salvageable parts.

Awesome!

WTF? This better go to a vote! Or did I blink and miss it?

Profitable world wide is only beneficial outside North America and does not maintain North American jobs.

Because some details would need to be worked out as closing the plant is a huge undertaking. I would first like to see a solid, in stone closing date because apparently the September 2011 date has not even been signed off on.

Until the CAW changes it will continue to be decimated. The CAW national, and to an extent the locals, have become complacent and rather predictable. The union is now run more like a business than a trade union. For example the national seems to be more concerned with diversification and income. What I'm getting at is CAW went from wild to mild. Just a thought but, did the union itself buy into neo-liberalism?

If you're so embarrassed to work with people who have opinions and refused to be shepherded by snake oil salesmen, QUIT.

I've personally worked at several other places. You're correct in the pay and benefits were...umm are good. But, the beloved union is not innocent. Let me correct myself. The union, being the membership, is innocent in fact sometimes naive. The leadership which is meant to be responsible to the union only saved ... well nothing. But, sold everything including the principle of solidarity.

I already like this Lindsay person. God forbid a member actually speaks their mind a union meeting! The nerve of her not to tow the party line! Our leadership needs to grow a pair and stop being so damned predictable at the bargaining table. http://www.reuters.com/article/Autos09/idUSTRE5A403B20091105 Oh, this just in... it looks like Ford wants to go back to the bargaining table with the IUAW.

Excuse me but the Union did not sign our pay cheques the company does. Yes, the Union did negotiate the rates and benefits to a greater extent. But, face facts that if the company could not afford the rates and benefits they would have been lower. What I'm getting at is it's easy to lead in prosperous times. But, the true measure comes during difficult times. The CAW National failed to do a damn thing for STAP and conceded too much elsewhere for "commitments". The closing agreement was not patterned. The only thing the National managed was to be duped into greater concessions by a superior foe.

That's correct.

Someone should haul them both up to labour relations for a safety infraction. Isn't that company policy?

Every time there is to be a ratification vote it needs to be monitored and counted by an independent third party. This does two things: first puts the trust of the membership back in the process and secondly places the union in a position beyond reproach ( at least with respect to voting). Not to mention no more "Rush to Ratify" rally's.

Right on the money. Police departments told Ford before that they did not want the Fivehundred (aka Taurus). It just does not measure up to police use.

Ford reported a $1 billion profit for the 3rd quarter. Ford is also reporting return to profitability in 2011. But, you know Chrysler Kenny did his best to get the best deal (insert sarcasm here). Good call CAW National "Rush to Ratify".

"Marketing experts hold the Edsel up as a supreme example of corporate America’s failure to understand the nature of the American consumer." Wikipedia "...the name Edsel came to be synonymous with commercial failure, and similar ill-fated products have often been colloquially referred to as Edsels. " Wikipedia Hmm...failure, ill-fated... quite the name sake yourself.

Don't even start that Sh@#. Ford will announce in the coming week the official closure of STAP. If the Canadian dollar remains artificially inflated thanks to currency speculators Ford will pull more work from Canada because of "market conditions". The US dollar is currently low therefore US operations are more profitable than in Canada. Watch for China, India, Eastern Europe and maybe Mexico.

Actually what happened is people were offered a frightening painting on Halloween weekend. With all the doom and gloom economically people were left with no other option. I take my hat off to you Mr.Mullaly. You sir know exactly how to break unions! Now Mr. Lewenza stop trying to fight/help these companies using their own rules. They wrote the game book and play much better than we ever will.

The only "pattern" to this proposed agreement are the pro-company parts.

It was just a warning. This new Ford does not respect collective agreements. Don't fool yourself.

"Ford may punish the UAW by making promised products in Canada or Mexico instead of the U.S., said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan. “Where we will see the result of this failure is in a product announcement -- moving some business out that had been planned here,” he said." This David Cole guy obviously is not aware that Ford does not want to produce in Canada if the canadian dollar remains high.

Wow... you actually bought it. Enough with the Union trumpet bullshit. You're sounding like Lewenza at the London meeting today pounding his chest in solidarity. Yes, you currently work contract to contract. But, be warned Ford will be back.

Priceless.

Let's not assume if this passes at STAP it is because of the low seniority members. It will be because the majority of STAP members have lost hope.