justwishing

Which plant are you at that runs c-crew on Sunday morning? All the other c-crews run Friday, Saturday dayshift, and Sunday, Monday afternoons.

Phoenix closed already. Can't transfer to any HVC if you are a legacy/new traditional employee if you do not have RTBU to the facility.

Unfortunately VOLUNTARY turns into mandatory placement further into Appendix N. In or out of zone. If you can be surveyed, you can be placed.

No they didn't. The advance profit sharing payout is totally seperate from the signing bonus. If you would not have worked the first 8 months of the year, you would have still gotten a signing bonus but no advanced profit sharing pull ahead. This is not rocket science. If you believe that you are somehow getting screwed, no matter how you paint the picture you are going to get screwed in your eyes. If you believe that the biggest problem with this contract is the fact that you somehow believe that you are losing some of next years profit sharing, than you need to start reading the whole contract seriously. Not just glimpsing at a page believing you know what it means. Because it would be a safe bet that you have no clue what 90% of the language means. There are a multitude of issues with this contract that need to be better explained. 50% of the workforce believes that if the cadillac tax kicks in (IF) than they will be responsible for 700 dollars a month for coverage. They believe this because they don't read. The vast majority plays the I "heard from a friend who has a friend that is best friends with a rep, and they said" card. READ. Once again it is not rocket science. All you have to do is take 30 minutes each day, and read; And what you don't understand, ask a question about. I know. No one has 30 minutes each day to read. But everyone on here seems to find an hour to post garbage that they believe to be true, when in fact the information they are stating as facts are totally false. Look that premise up in the dictionary. So here is the real truth. Jimmie Settles stated that the only reason that the pull ahead was done, was because in 2011, the total between signing bonus and pull ahead totaled $10,000. Jimmie Settles new that if the bargaining committee did not bring back $10,000, than the cynics that have nothing better to do but post ridiculous statements would say that this was a concessionary agreement. PERIOID. If you don't believe me, than ask your president or chair that attended the rollout meeting.If they say that wasn't said, than they are not being truthful,or weren't there. The one positive that this provides is that if you have paid off FICA, than you would get more now. The negative is, if you were rolling the entire amount into a 401K, you could have already maxed out this year and can't divert into next year.

The IUAW DID NOT raise the dues to 1.44%. That was something that was done by Constitutional Convention delegates. Period. The IUAW can't raise dues. That is a Constitutional matter. If you have a problem with the dues increase, you need to take it up with the Constitutional Convention delegates that were sent from the Local that you are a member of. Nothing can change with the 1.44% until a Constitution Convention is called. As members, everyone should read the Constitution.

Dues are deducted at 1.44%. It doesn't matter if it is one check for $10,000, or 10,000 checks for $1. It is going to be the same amount either way. There is no gain for the IUAW either way.

On leave of absence beginning not earlier than 90 days prior to the date of this agreement will receive a lump-sum ratification bonus payable in the second pay period following official notification. These are the employees that will receive the ratification bonus. The official date of the contract should be Sept. 15. So, if you were on a leave that started before 6/15, a ratification bonus will probably not be paid out. Confusing though.

No idea. I am not sure what the issue is with the pull ahead. It is a benefit if you have paid off FICA in this calendar year, but a negative if you have already invested max in your TESPHE. Either way, this is a non issue for me. If this was why some voted yes or no, than employees need to step back and look at the big picture. There are many issues that are in need of fixing before we get involved in a discussion that has no big wins or losses.

That is why resolution forms are distributed a year before contracts are negotiated. For both the national and local agreements. These resolutions are then voted on locally and sent to the respective negotiators/sub committees. If employees actually took a few minutes to try and make a difference before hand, we would not have so much complaining later. I would bet money that Decker filled out and submitted some resolutions.

All Constitutional matters are handled by the Constitutional Convention delegates. They are the only ones who can vote to change dues, and any salaries of International Reps.

Most factually correct statement on here.

Yes. He realizes that by not being part of the solution, he was part of the problem.

Only if they take the enhanced moving allowance. If you take the basic moving allowance, than you will retain you rtbu and hme zone rights.

An Entry Level Employee will gain health care the first of the month following their 7 full months of employment. They will gain dental and vision 3 and 5 years later. Depending on how long they were an LTS, that time may/should count towards their 7 months of employment. It is in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

If you take the retirement incentive, than your incentive is not taxed as a bonus. It is taxed at the 20% rate. It is not identified as income. It is paid out as an annuity. That is the way that this is done. As for vacation and paid personal time: if you are leaving under a RETIREMENT package, than you will receive your earned vacation and personal time. If you leave under a seperation package (STEP, EDOPP, FEDOPP. TRIP) you will not receive any of your earned time. Your last day of work could be 11/30/08 and you would not have any accrued time on 12/1/08. It sucks, but that is the way it is.

You are correct. As long as you are vested, you will retain your pension benefit, but you may not draw from this benefit for the 23 month allocation period post seperation on the 100K buyout.

There are Ford production employees in JSP at Monroe. The question is why they would not be transferred to Saline. Contractually, they have that right. The Master Agreement does distinguish between ACH and Ford facilities, when in fact, Ford operates them both. I know there are some employees at DTP that left from Saline that think they are going to get one opportunity to return to Saline. This is turning into a huge rumor mill. I do not believe that there will be any answer given until the buy out window closes.

If the plant left control of ACH, then they could name it whatever they wanted, but would have to have some form of agreement reached to cover the employees. As it stands now, the orange employees are Temporary Part Time employees. I believe there is about 800-900 orange employees at Saline. They can not just be let go without notice. There are laws that govern that. The WARN Act will have to be implemented as it was at the Monroe Plant. It caused alot of problems at Monroe. The orange employees could not be reduced for 60 days after the WARN Act was invoked. The orange employees could not be touched at all for 60 days after that. Has Saline management invoked the WARN notification. The clock starts ticking then. If they supplied the notification on 11/02/08, than the orange could not be reduced until 1/02/08. That is the law. I worked with orange employees at Monroe that wanted to be laid off during the two week shut down period, but could not because of the notification. It was very messy. As a matter of fact, Monroe just had some employees that transferred to Saline in the last week or so. These very same employees have already been identified once under the Warn Act. Ask one of them how this process works. They have already lived it once. :stats:

No I am not just wishing. I do not work at Saline. There is contractual language that allows for Ford employees at ACH locations to transfer to another ACH location. I never said that a Ford employee that left Saline would be allowed to come back to Saline. As a matter of fact, the Contract states that a Ford employee working at a Ford facility would not be surveyed for job openings at ACH locations. There is also some interesting language in regards to some transfers. Pick up a copy of the Master Agreement and read it.

What history? Campaign finance reform. I believe that John McCain was complaining about negative campaigning 4 years ago when Bush was slinging mud all over him. What happened to that concept now. As for changi9ng the way things are done in Washington, John McCain has been there how many years????? What has he changed???? You can claim to have been in favor, or opposed to a bill that had no chance of passing and claim that you were a reformer. McCain has sided with the president on all of his economic plans, and Americans are feeling the wrath of those plans now. I suppose you believed that George Bush was correct when he claimed that Gore was using "fuzzy math" in reference to Bush's economic policies. Al Gore really called that one.

As opposed to the unemployment lines that everyone seems to be standing in now. McCain is just an extension of the same policies that Bush has shoved down our throats for the last 8 years. And McCain has supported all of these policies. YOU ARE SITTING HERE CONTEMPLATING SEVERING YOUR TIES WITH FOR MOTOR COMPANY FOR $100,000 BECAUSE BUSH IS IN OFFICE. THERE WOULD BE NO BUYOUTS IF BUSH HAD NOT BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT. Keep making the same mistakes over and over. First time, shame on them. Second time, shame on us.

All that are in JSP are paid out of the JSP/SUB fund. So Saline would have a payroll with lower paid workers. Ford would still show the money leaving the JSP/SUB fund. They probably don't want to move anyone to Saline prior to the buyout window closing just in case there are employees that will sign up for the buyout believing they will never be placed at another facility. Ford workers will be coming to Saline, and some of them will have 20+ years of seniority.

Where in the F&*$ have you been for the last 8 years. Tax cuts have not worked to stimulate the econmomy, and they never have. Trickle down does not work now, or ever. Grab a history book and read up on it. Ever means never have they ever worked. Largest surplus in the history of the United States to the largest deficit in history. Throw in the largest profits in history for the oil companies, and now you see where this administration has been at. You are not even allowed to know who attended, the minutes of, or who decided the energy policy that we now live under. Even though a court determined that it was public knowledge. We got the big old bird. Who do you think is going to pay off the national debt? CEO's from all the companies that have benefited from this presidents tax cuts. Guess again. We wil. It isn't any different than "read my lips, no new taxes". Tax revenue is going to have to go up and the national debt will have to be paid down. Keep worrying about how someone gets to the hospital, and you won't even realize that they closed the hodpital, or it is run by a contract group. Every now an then, look around at everyting instead of what the republican party tells you to look at. I watched an episode of COPS once, and I realized they were UNION. Why don't you act like you are????

Absolutely correct. Bush's brother was also neck deep into the savings and loan scandal as well. As for supporting the working people, all you have to do is go into the parking lot at your facility. Unless you are at Dearborn Truck, you will see all the Non-Ford and foreign garbage parked next to your car or truck. Until everyone grasps the concept of buying what we build, the trade deficit will continue to rise and we will fall further behind. McCain is now going into attack mode because he is not confident enough to talk on the economy. That is all anyone cares about anymore, and he can't fix it. We all need to remember that the stock market is directly driven from consumer confidence, and it is scary as hell to see that 60% of all americans believe that we will be going into a depression. That is where consumer confidence is at now. Nobody is spending money. Wait until everyone cuts back on christmas shopping and all the retail stores dive deeper into the toilet.

There are only 14 production employees in JSP. There are 79 skilled trades in JSP, as we had 6 tansfer to Wayne Body and Assembly. According to the plant manager, they can't put any more into JSP until the end of October because of build requirements. I did hear that 5 drive line is going to one shift next week. They can't place employees at the last minute. It has been reported out that a two week notice has to be given to dearborn before any one can be put into JSP. At least there will be a two week window where employees will know of the numbers that they anticipate putting into JSP.