jjt4433

No vote here, I don't need Gary or anyone else's points. I can see this contract sucks, basically all stays the same and we get some mulally pocket change every now and then.

I'm sure the workers will get mulallys nuts in their mouth. And the world is supposed to end December 21st 2012 so we will get some time under our new contract!!!

Cool, thanks I will! I still have no idea why you even posted on the topic if you don't care about it, but whatever.

No problem, there was a point made earlier in this thread that insinuated that we were talking about total cost. He even replied "Doesn't employee cost include everything we earn?" Personally I am not a transplant worker so that would make my cost $58 according to Ford and a non-transplant at Toyota $50 according to Ford which is what I am going off of.

Are you that stupid, they have mettings every year showing that we make $58 per hour, GM at $56, Toyota at $50. So $50 x 20= come on, I know you can do it!!! And I don't know if you seen the title of this thread-Alan Mulally's pay vs. Honda, Toyota, Nissan CEO pay. :slap:

Besides if you want to get into numbers, I love numbers!!! In 2009 Toyotas CEO made $903,000, Mulally made $17,900,000, probably further divided now. It's one Ford they claim, so should Ford employees make 20 times what a production Toyata worker makes? That would definately be "life changing"!!! That would be what about a $1000 per hour.

Nice of you to leave out all his bonuses! Management counts are bonus, profit sharing is why we are making $2.00 more per hour than GM.

How many times do you need to post this crap idiot? I've seen some of the work tier 2 workers do, with high turnover like you wish the company had the quality would be horrible which would result in a lot less sales. Tell me again how this would be profitable???

Don't forget Bob King, I'm sure he will get a nice chunk too!

we are making $2 more than gm due to our profit sharing, it's retarded to include profit sharing in amount of money we make an hour. Mark Fields can suck a huge C^%K!!!!

I would say you were dreaming! The company stated that they gave us more for money for the last profit sharing than the formula came up with. They are so nice to us.(sarcasm there)

Some people may like going backwards in pay and benefits, but I am not one of them. Ford is making a lot of money lately and can afford to give blue collar a raise. That's fine if you want to vote yes on some bs contract, but if I don't like it which is the way it is sounding as of right now(I will have to see an official finished negotiated contract first) I will be voting NO .

Mulally worries about what's in our pocket too.

$1,000,000,000 That's billion divided by 27= $37,037,037 million per year. Alan Mulally came on in 2006 so 5 years he has made in excess of 313,000,000(March 10, Detroit Free Press: Already, Mulally's accumulated equity-based incentives -- 13.9 million shares and 14.5 million options -- are worth about $313 million based on Ford's $14.01 closing price Monday, according to an analysis by Equilar, a firm that specializes in executive pay. That does not include salary, bonus and other corporate perks.) $313,000,000 million divided by 5=$62,600,000 so that is nearly double what toyoda is making and last time I checked Alan's last name wasn't Ford. He is grossly overpaid and you made that even more obvious with your post. :slap:

Large tariffs on imports would pretty much solve everything from jobs to national debt.

We were told September at DTP

There are a lot of absences, I don't know if it's because of medical or what. Also, since they got rid of the temps there has been a lot of people being called in from different shifts, last monday I got called in the morning to come in for dayshift, and in the afternoon to come in for the night shift. The jobs are overloaded and your body does take a beating there....

I hope there are 2 bumps per year in the next contract, the plant I came from had 1 in April and 1 in October. As of right now there is only 1 so it is what it is! As far as overtime, there should also be an equalization list. I am not a fan of overtime myself, I would rather spend time with my wife and family then make some extra money.

He has every right to complain. Nick needs to adhere to the contract, bumping season has been over. These employees coming in should go where they are needed until bumping season comes around again. Thats the way it worked for me and I didn't complain about it because it was the contractual language. Nick needs to go by the local contract and not change it when he feels like it.

When I came to DTP, I came in April. I did not get to put in for a shift preference until the following year, it was past bumping season and the rules are the rules. Nick wasn't running things back then so the rules were actually followed. No need for a local contract if the chairman is going to change what's written in it. This is not the first time Nick has catered to people coming into DTP, he had done this exact same thing a couple of years ago. It sucks you have to go to C crew. Just remember this next election, you might want to make a change in leadership.

Bob King negotiated the concessions that were ridiculous and I voted no everytime. I haven't liked Bob King from day 1!

http://www.freep.com/article/20110426/BUSINESS0102/110426006/Ford-s-1Q-earnings-rise-22-4-2-6-billion?odyssey=nav|head

Vey well wrote and thought out! I agree with you all the way.

When 2nd tier workers numbers get comparable with 1st tier workers and we are all voting on contracts, that is not going to be a good scenario for 1st tier workers.

Ford had just put up everything including the blue oval to get all their loans, chrysler and gm did not put up everything to get loans.