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the answer to your questions is yes...yes...and yes...alittle hot headed too, he's serving some time off, can't keep his hands to himself. careful.

Now that makes me laugh! Ever heard of a little company called GE? That is the Corporation that got Obamass elected!!!! He is such a fool he address congress Slamming all those "rich corporations" that don't pay their fair share with his good buddy Rodger Elmelt sitting on his wife's lap during the speach. A negative political ad waiting to happen!!!!

You got people over here, I got people ALL THE WAY OVER THERE, people and politics has crossed over for years and you know that for fact. That has been established on here for years. Yes I do see where you are going---round and round in circles trying to do anything to distract from issues that are brought up. Seems your more concerned with the messenger than the message. Being the know it all you think you are---if the issues put on here were off base you would have said so but it is fact that your leadership has done nothing but f-ck trades and now are f-cking prod. by flooding the plant with no job openings, violating the contract and costing people their jobs, all for politics and their own gain. If you don't think plant politics crosses over from one plant to another just look at how we are ALL on lock down because of one Vince Cola.(you brought him up) That ass-hole calls the media on a brother and now it has spread through out the industry one calling on another, see how that works bullshit spreads from one plant to another. The failures of all leadership in time will effect everyone. Try to stay on point.

Trades issue and contract violations by leadership for political gain resulting in the loss of jobs should not be minimized to just a "beef". Doesn't matter where, shouldn't all leadership be call on it when its going on? It would seem your the one with the beef. you go after mod? last I heard he was not your chair but instead of going after the issue you continue to go after someone that has nothing to to with any of it. You got no reason to blame anyone but the people in charge now. You just feed into all the union bullshit and you confirm my theories when you avoid the issues. Although your conspiracy theories are amusing my only point was about leadership and the political bullshit. I guess your job is not at risk---not yet.

You were in my dept. yesterday? sorry I missed you. I'm at Sterling you dumb suck-ass.

LMFAO ---all day long I was expecting ljcdad aka Joe to come crawling out from Millers ass crack with some profoundly stupid reply----So late in the day Miller puts out a new guy named givemeabreak aka JOE CHODACKI :kissass: ---.DUDE you create a new name but keep calling people DUDE--- DUDE that was just plain pitifull. But DUDE, thanks for confirming the accuracy of my response and my assessment of whats going on. Miller is in total violation of contract and the response is to attack the past chair. It is as weak as your current chairman Miller is. DUDE there is no one he can point fingers at on this one. DUDE you said Van Dyke is a good place to work---What I think you meant to say is Van Duke USED to be a good place to work and the people shouldn't loose their jobs because of some political ploy.----------DUDE thanks for the laugh!

givemeabreak---come on Miller couldn't get any one of your Vigilante suckasses to back you on this? you gotta make a new name? why didn't you just come on as toolman? I know exactly what I'm talking about---You flooded that plant--- with not one job opening, ---you got people knocked out of their jobs--- forced to afternoons, making them contingents---no bidding, no transfer box ---ever read your contract?----word is you agreed to 180 by the end of the year? Where they going? Who's job they taken? Way to look out for your Van Dyke brothers Rob. Looks like my theory is correct. You can tell how fine the room is by all the people who jumped to your defense---can't count your multiple personalities on here.------ "The room is doing fine" -------what I think you meant to say is--------The room is a "fine" place to hide! :fan:

Van Dyke has gone from one of the strongest union houses to the weakest in a matter of 12 months. Trades big time but everyone has gotten f-cked one way or another. leaders are a joke, management has just run over them. They are now bringing up to 180 new bodies in there by end of year, with zero new jobs coming in. How the hell does that happen? There will for sure be layoffs for VD people down the road, when FN goes out, and no way will there be any overtime. The current office holders don't have a prayer of getting re-elected. They have been in hiding for the last 11 months. My guess is that they are bringing in people to get their votes, They know there's no way the VD people are putting them back in.

Rick Perry will not be the repub. nomination. The repub. nomination will go to Mitt Romney. Perry is too far to the right. Mitt can go to the middle and take the independents from Obama and the far right ie tea party hates Obama so much that they will vote for him just to eliminate Obama.

That's the way the teamsters elect.--- When they are elected by the membership they would work for the membership*****

The question was it a Dem or a repub that wanted to take our right to strike away???? You Dems can't swallow the fact that it was a UNION DEM. that wanted to do that!!! Re-Read your own post---one sentence your saying"Supporting repubs and we will continue to struggle for pay increases next one your supporting the octo-mods saying king said specifically NO strike over wage and benefit increases. If our DEM UNION leadership had their way there would not be ANY struggle over wages and benefits it would have been GAME OVER! You can engage in all the name calling you want but the Facts are Facts and they aint going to change. :finger:

All that was gained in the History of Unions KING was willing to give away by taking away our right to strike! Was that the Repubs that wanted to give that away?????

that is the point I was trying to make. This shit is only about payback, revenge and plant politics. They do it for their own personal gains, Has nothing to do with people having problems with drinking or smoking or getting them help. and you are right---the working people are the ones who suffer. Sad but true--- the people who do this shit are the local leaders who claim to me all about the union and them preach to the workers how they need to step up. No wonder why we can't recruit--- With union leaders like that ---what do they need management for?

Man, that was quick---are you the only one they can get to defend them? I work at 228, have for a long time. I used to work with Cola, he knows who I am----come out from under his desk and use the one brain cell you got left---The topic was---turning people in----the lock down came after Vince Cola(allegedly, feel better?) called the news on a fellow union brother, has nothing to do with 2280 politics, Vince got the whole system locked-----so are you saying is because it happened before it was ok for Vince to do it? Are you saying it is ok for a union brother to turn in a union brother? So it's Mod's fault? So by your theory if you make a mistake you should be fired or have an "issue"--- Didn't YOU make a mistake and your union brother (MOD) save your job? Again-- Dick Breath your just repeating what you are told. No the proofs came out after your elections last year, I believe it was just rumor before that---As far as Lance----your clueless, he don't support anyone but himself, he was never a Mod supporter asshole. Not going into his or Millers involvement now just saying---when you f-ck with peoples jobs who supported you---they will turn on you. The question is--Do you think it's ok for a union brother to call the media on a fellow union brother for revenge or for political gain?---I guess you answer is YES.

Empire brought Obama in it with drug testing for all---and of course that prompted someone to drag Bush and the whitehouse in. agree should not be turned over to the media. This is all union revenge, brother on brother and its all bull shit. Those guys all claim to be union and then they f-ck theirs brothers to get ahead. Has nothing to do with helping any one or keeping the plant safe it's all about revenge, that ends up hurting all of us not to mention their families.

kpc655---Is that you Vince Cola? Did you have your hand in this one too? For anyone who don't know---- all this news shit started at Ford. 2280. The evidence looks pretty compelling that it was their current President Vince Cola that did the same shit to the Chairman. it was right after all that shit came down that the entire Ford system went on lockdown. This is one thing we shouldn't blame Obama for. You should all be blaming Vince Cola. Now word is Lance Adams and Rob Miller both had hands in it, but you won't find any doubt the drots were given to the news by Vince Cola, he would copy them and put them in a binder, you could see the three holes on the paper the news guy was holding. Real smart Vince.---- to bad for your plant the proof didn't come out before you punks were elected.

It was Bush that gave the first bailout asswipe---What the hell did Obamass do for me at Ford? I think we are going to see exactly what he did for Ford with the next contract.

Yeah as the trade gap widens----Who the hell is "we" you and your oldlady? Speak for yourself asshole---aint no way the rank and file are voting for that asshole, you been gone so long your out of touch old man!

Co---your efforts to have a logical discussion with him are pointless, the guy is nuts---do yourself a favor and give his posts the attention they deserve---none!

How's 2280's little bitch doin? You still crying? Wipe your nose and take it like a man. I talk to plenty over there and anyone can see it for themselves. All you got to do is read all your posts. You put it on alot of people on here. Did you confirm any of the shit you accused others of? YOU have NO first hand knowledge of what you were putting out there, you were told to put it out there and you followed like an obedient dog, hell on one thread your on here directing your bullshit lies to some ones wife? you got to be f-cking nuts! Why-------because someone told you to do it? did you ever confirm it? did you have knowledge of it?, did you talk to him about it? You should of got your ass handed to you for that one. Your gunna come on here and tell me I'm and asshole and a punk MFer---A punk MFer is someone who bitches themself out there for people who claim to be union and then call the news media on a fellow member, making us all look bad. EVERYONE should be aware---this guy runs with the people who are responsible for the entire system being on LOCKDOWN!------- Your union credibility is ZERO! You don't have to tell any one over there what a piece of shit this guy is, they all know, but hey you got your guys in there at all cost. Hows that working out for you? Your place has gone to hell in a hurry. Oh and how is that appointment working out for you? YOU sucked it asshole, punkMFer---now go in the corner and SWALLOW HARD. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Last time it was raised Obamass voted against it say " raising the debt limit would be a disaster for our economy" So now who's the Lying piece of cowshit!?-----besides you?

Rjohn.. let me introduce you to "one" of the sights biggest assholes.

Well said! I don't think Obama is going to get the Union vote this time around. He has failed to deliver on his promises on trade and jobs.

I guess you have been taken in by all the brainwashing. McCotter® is pro union with a record to support it. Trump has a record as well of always supporting unions, check it out, that is why Obama will not be able to count heavily on the union vote running against Trump. You can be conservative and support the working man. You can oppose high taxes for EVERYONE and still support the working man, contrary to what our leadership would have you believe. What does anyone on here think of eliminating the IRS, having no deductions at all...just a 10% flat for every american or anyone legal or not, Get your w-2 look at gross...pay the flat 10% and be done with it. That way OBAMA's GE would not make billions and pay 0% and even get a refund!