DividedWeFall

No, actually they're having a stunningly high fail rate.

Vote "NO" next contract if they want to keep this language!

I stand corrected. We had a letter circulate with a UAW stamp on it that said profit sharing was capped at $12,000. It obviously was not.

Not lies, but thanks for the "education"

FYI, profit sharing is capped at $12,000

We're talking about the local skilled agreement. Only skilled vote on that.

Even if the schedule is okay to you, if the workers there don't want it then the UAW should represent them accordingly. Once again I stress, the UAW Rep's job is to represent our wants, not push what they think is right down our throats.

Has no language about what? What do you find hard to believe exactly?

If the UAW would simply represent the people instead of doing their own thing there would be no need to fight the Right To Work laws, no one would want to opt out of paying dues. Instead, they are trying to overturn the law so they won't have to start representing us the way they should. It seems the only way to send a message to UAW International may be for a mass exodus of union dues. I never thought our union would be the one we'd be fighting.

Flatrock tradesmen voted down the most recent local agreement yet the company is enforcing the "new" rules (with little to no union opposition) that would have been in place had the contract been ratified.

I just came to FRAP late last year and they have been very welcoming and helpful. This is definitely not like other Ford plants in that regard (you know who you are Eastsiders).

That's great if you like it, but many do not. Think about a single parent that works that shift. Many are making a lower wage, the weekend is their family time, and besides being away from their family they may have to pay a babysitter out of that paltry wage. The AWS is another attack on families, something our union should be fighting for. Our union leaders in the beginning cared about the family structure and fought to have 8 hour days and 40 hour weeks, and premium time for weekends. The current leadership says to a new hire, "you'll make a much lower wage, you'll get worse benefits, less vacation, you'll work weekends for straight time, and you better like it or leave." Aren't unions supposed to fight for what the people they are representing want? Not push their agenda (getting more union dues) down our throats!! I support the Chrysler workers that are protesting even though I'm a blue oval worker, because we should stand together for what's right.

You're right, it is 2 tier. I guess I just meant the discrepency in pay was closer than productions. To my knowledge no other plant has that but I'm not sure any other plants have hired off the streets recently. You're also right that this does affect us all. I repeat my earlier plea, we must stand together and fight...gulp...our union and the company on these issues. Too many workers believe the scare tactics and threats that the union throws at us. We must unite and fight.

Just to put the truth out there: Flatrock has somewhat of a 2 tier system in trades. New hire tradesmen are hired in $.71 lower per hour than current Ford trades, and after 4 months top out at $.51 and hour less. They also have no pension but Ford puts 4% of their 40 hour pay each week into a 401k. Let it also be known that there are apprentices, both electrical and mechanical, here. As far as blurring the lines of demarcation, that would be hard considering there are NO lines of demarcation to start with. This will be all of our future if we do not stand up for ourselves. Unfortunately the international is not doing their job of representing us (they are elected to take our wants to the company and then negotiate, not bring their wants to us and then shove them down our throats) so we must fight our battles at each location. The UAW is about getting membership back up so they can get more $$$ from the increase in dues paid. We can only win this battle if we, the workers, stand united.