Slipperyelectron

A co-worker showed me an article from the socialist workers paper that had their reporters kicked out of the local a few weeks ago. Article stated the national bargaining committee reps. were all "rewarded" with a union paid trip to Miami all huge expenses paid including $500.00 a night suites. Give us back our 1/2 an hour.

This is a complete crackheads contract, PERIOD. EVERY tradesman Iv'e spoken with at 600 agrees. Most 2nd. tier are to scared to vote no. They've never experienced a union election, especially when they're toady union reps. are telling them what a great deal it is. 600 will not be an automatic yes. Trades will probably be an overwhelming HELL NO. ALSO. Every contract year union personnel affiliated with the regional districts and the international go onto this forum and other social media forums and tout their shitty contracts to the forum members. I have this info. from a source who's in the know. I know we can all tell who many of them are from the posts of the last couple weeks, right people?

I'm a hell of a lot smarter than you jack wagon. And I'm voting hell no. The health care will be worse than Canada's. The wage increase won't cover jack shit. My wife would be dead right now if I had a veba plan like the retirees have. We went to any specialist and hospital we needed to. Under Veba you are told where to go. And co-op is a phrase to put sugar on the real term. VEBA.

Thae last two paragraphs state "The plans outlined in the Free Press article make clear that the current negotians are not between two antagonistic parties. Rather, the unions function as corporate sub-contractors, dedicated to increasing the profits of the companies, while seeking to ensure their own positions and perks are preserved. The working class in the United States and internationally is being driven into a head on collision with all of those who are seeking to reduce workers to poverty and slave like conditions. Autoworkers must build new organizations of struggle, free from the control of the UAW, and begin a counter offensive to defend jobs, wages and benefits". Don't hate on me, not my words but something to ponder.

O.K. Thanks, I didn't want to type this long article by hand. It came in an email but I don't know who wrote it. It's very critical of the interview with Williams. It states that for the union VEBA is a giant slush fund that it can utilize to finance bloated bureaucracy which is very important to UAW executives who expect an exodus of disgusted dues paying members at expiration of contract. The present retiree VEBA is funded by us through cola give backs the last two contracts. President Williams and the entire team negotiating the current contract, Norwood Jewell {FCA}, James Settles {Ford}, and Cindy Estrada {GM} collect $30,000.00 a year as trustees of the fund, padding their already bloated six figure salaries from the UAW and their seats on various corporate boards and corporatist programs.If a " super veba were established the UAW would have an even greater incentive to reduce our benefits Rather than fighting the companies for benefits we'd be fighting our union.Under Obamacare a special tax on "Cadillac" health plans that cost more than $10,200 for singles and $27,500 for families. Either the tax will be shifted to the workers or the UAW will cut benefits to a point where the tax no longer applies.This will translate into a drastic reduction in medications, procedures and tests available to us and our families. It will mean, in short, that we will suffer with more health problems and die sooner. Thanks Bill and Dennis. So proud to be a union represented employee and part of the "Ford Family".

Sorry I couldn't load article. Ford and IUAW are in talks now to place all hourly and salary health care into a VEBA plan. This cannot be passed by the membership and if it does many will stop paying dues. Try looking up the article in the Detroit Free Press from a couple Sunday's ago and if you can please post it. Thanks.

LMMFAO. Don't piss off dem crazy assed pixels Decker. You must not have seen the movie.

Well, I was really surprised last week when an electrician who works at GM's Poletown Assembly in Hamtramck told me that Carpenters, Industrial Truck Repair, Tinsmiths and I think another trade as well as of course the cleaners are all contracted through Aramark. The cleaners there even clean in the robot and production cells.

YOU GET NOTHING!!! GOOD DAY SIR!!!

Go to youtube and type in Millwright vs Electrician. Funny stuff

If you look at the web site of the National Training Center in Lincoln Park you'll see on the calendar this month for two weeks reskilling orientation fot the trades of Electrician and Machine Repair.

Ford is NOT the strike target. There are NO strike targets. Ford is the negotiating target. The union isn't going to kill the golden goose. I wish under educated morons would stop referring to strike targets every contract negotiation.

It'll stay open for at least a year after next contract. It's being idled to barely nothing in February. Many have transfered to many other plant's over the last year. Over 300 production have been awarded bids for DSP beginning in September and incrementally the following momths of this year. The Schuler has been sold to Kentucky Truck. Production and trades are currently waiting for placement dates for MAP, FRAP, DSP, DTP, DDMP,KCAP and more. About 70 trades bids are up for all plants in Rouge Site. All bids are for following work lost, production and trades.

I have a question I need answered please by electricians who work at FRAP. The word is that there are a dozen or so reqs. coming up in a few weeks for electricians and possibly other trades and or production personell to follow work that's going to be lost to your plant from WSP. What kind of shifts are electricians working? Is there an AWS and is there overtime available and if so how much o.t. is available? Thank You.