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Toyota already gave their employees two raises in the past year. This latest wage is clearly a result of the UAW strike as Toyota and no transplant want the UAW to get in. The UAW is sure as hell going to try.

I would have to agree with your assessment. All the shit I’m talking about in regards to plant consolidation means little right now.

It was only a matter of time for GM to reach a tentative agreement. Stellantis did today as well with UNIFOR.

I don’t know what to say about that one. I don’t want to see any ford plant close now or in the future. I just feel like it’s a possibility down the road. Too many players in the marketplace and now potentially Chinese infiltrating N/A market. I will stick to my belief that there will be some form of consolidation of facilities.

It’s most certainly a future issue and if there are other things going on at the site only time will tell what fords future solution will be.

Agreed 50 Million isn’t a massive investment at all

Btw I know what’s products are in all the North American plants. I’m a nerd like that.

I’m also talking about future of Mustang and Flat Rock. One shift operation is never good. Ontario Truck Plant and St Thomas Assembly were one shift and they’re gone. I know the Mustang is alive and well for now it just seems like Flat Rock will either receive massive investment in the future or be repurposed. I keep reading how they need expansion and the roofs are too low etc etc. I understand what you’re saying about BLUEOVALCITY and the transfers.

Future plant consolidation is my prediction. Agreed??? Why have all this transfer language if this is not a possibility with all this EV shit and termination of some ICE models?

Yup I have ZERO confidence in Fords 3 row EV plan. Cancel the Edge and Nautilus for likely ugly low selling crap. I see lots of downtime in my future.

As expected UAW contract better than Unifor.

It will be interesting to hear what they have to say in the coming weeks.

It likely is but who knows.

I’m sure many changes are coming. I’m sure that Ford brass will be looking to do some of the things you suggest. We all know that with all this EV planning future plant closures or consolidation are gonna happen too. Everyone knows more automation is coming with EVs and less jobs as they require less labor to build. ICE isn’t going anywhere for now but lots of changes are coming.

I won’t be surprised and your points are valid. Ford keeps on changing up plans which I guess they have to. They’ve been way too quiet in regards to upcoming EVs in my opinion.

Well we all know these GE2 vehicles have been slated for different plants including Mexico before the OAC decision. Technically with these lower numbers they could put those two vehicles in Mexico with the Mach e. I doubt that will happen at this point as I’m seeing lots of contractors in the plant these days. Remember Nautilus is getting imported those existing vehicles are dead at OAC. Edge order banks closing this week and Nov 3 supposedly. I feel like I’m speculating too much. Ford will lay out what they’re gonna do now that this uaw strike is over in due time.

I totally agree with what you’re saying, sounds logical to me. Their projections will be lower forsure and a lot can change as we know in the next few years. I can honestly see some plants gone or repurposed when the smoke clears in the next 5 years or so.

Edge and old Nautilus are toast. Dec 5th old Nautilus production ends. We still haven’t been given a specific date for the Edge other than 2nd quarter 2024. I just keep hearing how they’re slowing down EV plans. I’m curious to see how this will change the retool timing at Oakville if it does at all.

Ford goes and cancels the Edge and imports the Nautilus and now we have to wait for low selling EVs. JUST GREAT!! All I’m hearing is hybrid this hybrid that maybe they should dump a hybrid at OAC with their EV plans so we’re not on one shift when this all starts in 2025 OR LATER!

Here we go AGAIN!!!! Plans are about to change!! I wonder how pushed back the OAC AND BOC plans will be?!

I agree with you but my question is in what way will he be detrimental? Do you believe he will cost junior members to lose their jobs somehow down the road??

I believe Fain knew some of the demands were unattainable and part of the strategy. They didn’t get 46 percent 4 day work week or legacy pensions for all. I believe it was all part of the strategy. He will no doubt be pounding his chest. I supposed the UAW pushed as far as they could.

Good maybe the keyboard warriors also want to get back to work lol

Agreed, I believe it will be ratified. I think most of the people want to get back to work. You will have your it’s not good enough element but I don’t think it will be enough to prevent ratification. The paltry 500 a week strike pay doesn’t pay the bills.

Let’s hope the UAW Ford membership votes in favor of this contracts and ends this situation for 4.8 years.