T-dubz

What benefit would the 2.7 provide? The 2.3 already has 310hp. The video said that the 2.7 has 325hp. The gap between the two engines doesn’t seem that much. Would they increase the hp of the 2.7 or possibly lower the hp of the 2.3?

Makes more sense

they mentioned earlier they would air something different on each channel.

Or just choose one channel to make it easier on everybody.

Speaking of soft tops, are we thinking the hard top comes standard like the original broncos or will it come with a soft top to better align with the wrangler?

chrysler has the Pacifica and the 300. Dodge will have Durango, challenger, and charger. Ram has the trucks and vans. Fiat has a few variants of the 500 and then the 124 spider. With so few models, you can barely call any of those a brand by themselves. It would probably be more cost effective if they dropped a few models and then combined all the brands into one.

per CarGurus.com, there are 172 2020 escapes within 50 miles of my zip code. Of those, 142 have been on dealer lots for 90 days or more. nationwide, there are 22487 escapes listed on their website with 16709 being on the lot for 90 days or more. so basically 75-80% of stock has been on dealer lots for 90 days or more.

they were down 20% in Q1, which was the worst of any ford suv not named flex, but definitely not bad compared to this quarter. Maybe Q1 sales were bolstered by heavily discounted previous gen escapes? For reference, Q1 had 48k sales and Q2 was 36k.

What direction do you think ford will take with the escape? I think most people will find the sport to be the better looking vehicle of the two, there are a few question marks about the sport that I think could affect its sales though, size and price. I think one of the issues for the escape sales is price and with sport supposedly being more expensive, that could affect its sales. Size is also another concern, for me at least. All the auto websites have been comparing it to the renegade or compass. Some on these forums have compared it to the size of the previous gen escape. All of those seem too small. One of the biggest complaints about the old escape was rear seat legroom and that’s why the current escape has the sliding rear seat. Not having the same legroom and sliding seat seems like it could be a big mistake for the sport. I personally would have liked to see the sport being slightly larger than the current escape.

If you look at the big picture, I don’t think things look good for escape (down 49%). The Ecosport is a terrible vehicle and it was only down 19%. Edge Has had the same interior forever and is overdue for a full redesign and it was only down 36%. If you look at the other CUVs in ford’s line up that were recently redesigned, the picture looks even worse. Explorer actually increased 12% and outsold the escape. Corsair was only down 8%.

There was a rumor a while back that bronco sport orders would start today 7/1. Let’s see that order guide people!

Guess this is the yellow bronco that the drone took pictures of

Are these dealer installed or do they come from the factory like that? motor1 says these can be added to 2019 and 2020 rangers as well so I’m guessing it’s installed by the dealer. pretty nice kits.

There’s a new Santa Fe for 2021. I think the interior is the same or just slightly modified but the exterior looks pretty different. If you like the style of the current body style, you might be able to get an even better deal when the new one comes out.

Interior pics released

I get what you are saying. What throws it off for me is the somewhat oval shape of the trim on the grille (the chrome outer ring on the blue truck below). It doesn’t seem to flow well with the rest of the square and rectangular shapes on the rest of the front. The trim on the STX is body colored so it blends in better and if you look at the lariat, it’s missing the trim altogether so it looks better in my opinion.

XL XL Chrome STX XLT XLT Chrome XLT Sport Lariat Lariat Sport Lariat Chrome King Ranch King Ranch Chrome Platinum Limited

They gotta save something for next year to keep up the excitement. I bet in the next few years you will see an FX2 and a Tremor.

True, and the body didn’t change much over that time period at all, but playing it safe is how you let the competition catch up. This redesign won’t hurt ford at all and that’s what ford’s betting on, but a gamble here and there could have increased market share. Trucks are expensive these days, people don’t want to spend that much money on something that doesn’t look new.

You could also argue that between the 9th and 11th generations of F-150, you saw dramatic changes in each generation, all of which helped the F-150. Ever since the 12th gen, it seems we have pretty much had the same exterior minus the headlight and grille changes. With evolutionary styling, you run the risk of your product looking dated prematurely. Imagine if I were to buy a new F-150 in 7 or 8 years at the end of this new generations lifecycle. That truck will look pretty similar to a truck that’s 20 years old.

the body of the Silverado is actually pretty nice. It’s problems are the interior and the front end. I think the trail boss looks pretty good as is.

The front is where they are most different, switch the pics to a profile view and they look very similar. At the link below there are pics with sliders so you can compare the two. On the profile pics, the vent and the character lines on the wheel wells seem to be the biggest changes. On the 3/4 view the hood looks almost identical. Besides the front, the changes are so small that if you were driving past one and didn’t see the front, you’d hardly be able to tell the difference. https://www.motor1.com/features/430826/2021-ford-f150-old-new-compare/

TFL showed this pic in their video. Does anyone know where to get the actual pictures?

that left turn assist makes me a bit nervous. At least I’m assuming you can turn it off.