BigAl77

Hopefully, you don't have to drive clients around in it, lol.. Stay away from German products I know they are all the rage and get all the riches fired up when they see one. You are better off with Lexus if you buy another import, way better quality, German and British stuff is expensive garbage!

I was pretty pissed off a few months ago and got an attorney and started a Lemon Law Case, mine still has a lot of problems, but I am going to miss it. So far, it has not stranded me anywhere again, and you are right. The design is much nicer than MB. I just ordered an F150 Full hybrid to replace my 2020 Aviator not cause I have a particular love of pickups but because of the gas mileage believe it or not. Be warned tho when I was at the dealer ordering my F150, a customer who was sitting with me was getting his 3 weeks old 2021 Explorer ST bought back because of major issues. I can see why you want another one. Just good luck. I guess it is kind of a gamble at this point if you get a good one or not!

Correct more like "TRUTH ALERT"

Off topic, but what a shitty place to put a fuse box!!! Could they have picked a worse spot!!! That is the worse place for a fuse panel, causes all kinds of issues later down the road with moisture. Fuck Ford thank god I only rent this garbage I would never buy one of these fine quality automobiles <<< --- lol

Mine does the exact same thing, the dealer told me to disable the phone as a key. I have made 5 trips to the dealer because of this issue and many others, and they are all tied to the phone as a key. Here is the kicker my friend, they have no way to troubleshoot it unless they keep my phone for a day. Dealership employees will not pair a personal phone to the car and the dealership has none on had to use for this purpose, I have had it with all of these glitches and just went and got an attorney.

I have a 2020 early production Aviator Reserve II, it's a vehicle characteristic, the back of mine rattles like I have kidnapped tied-up hooker back there.

Honestly in my opinion the current navigator even though it is several model years old still has a better interior than the escalade by a lot. If you look at Cadillacs they have a lot borrowed from other lines GM has and I like to say you are basically paying for the dash forward on a caddy the rest is still a chevy. I personally would still choose a Navigator over the Escalade because even though the night vision and gee wiz bells and whistles of Escalade are the cats meow, it comes down to what you are sitting on and what you are touching when you are in a car of this caliber. Like a late relative who sold Tahoes like they were going out of style back in the 90's use to say, "Escalade starts out as a Chevy, It is a chevy, then BAM they hit it with a hammer". There is so much truth to that statement I have even experienced it in real life, before covid 19 wiped out the airlines I was a part-time liveries driver at the airport and I drove a Suburban or Navigator. Several times someone asked if the suburban was an escalade but everyone always could tell they were in a Navigator, so there ya go!

Yep, I am not a happy camper and I have purchased several Lincolns, they will never do that once you sign a contract it is binding, and cars that are bought back or lemon lawed are immediately destroyed as a result. But it has taken three visits and 1 year has gone by before they will even start replacing anything to resolve these issues. This last time I pulled into the service department and my touchscreen were completely black no radio controls or climate, I am currently working with an attorney and will probably be rid of this piece of shit by fall. I just want it gone, no faith that service is going to resolve these issues, Ford has no business charging me 75 grand for an SUV and have it loaded with annoyances and problems, I can see one or two minor issues but not where I am taking it to the dealer multiple times for the same issues. Come on they need to wake up, and I after I read on here a guy lemoned lawed 2 aviators a 2020 and 2021 I don't even want another one, I originally just wanted it swapped out for a new one now, FORGET THAT SHIT!

DONT DO IT!!!!! You will regret it, don't get it because it is garbage.. That battery only lasts 20 miles in electric mode, not even worth putting a speed charger on your house. Plus, the quality of these vehicles is piss poor at best. They still cannot make the aviators and explorers right. Trust me; we are not making these nasty posts up, but hey, if you really gotta have it, do the needful.

I agree the dash on the new Escalade is awesome but the rest of it is just so/so.. That Grand Wagoneer would be the one to hold out for that has all kinds of cool stuff, but my prediction is they are just going to refresh the interior on the 2022 Nav and the only new tech it will have is a bigger touch screen radio/nav/climate controls. Similar to what they did with the 2021 Nautilus, Ford is strapped for cash right now and the availability of supplies and suppliers is not the greatest as well. Plus don't forget the Big Gas burners are not eco-friendly so they are going to be low on Ford's priority list and they are already trailing other manufacturers in electrification so don't expect much money to get spent on Navigator/Expedition lines in the near future.

I take my Aviator to the service department every month now for something, they have been able to fix the door.. But still cannot fix the false alarms and the half dozen other software glitches I have to live with, my last three fords I never took to the service department for anything other than an oil change, this car has had the same issues now for over a year. What pisses me off is they say there is nothing wrong with it when I pick up, really getting pissed off because I have never lemon lawed a car in my life and not in a habit of making things up.

That's a bunch of Sh---T , My 2020's driver-side door stopped working on me and I would have to roll down the window and open the door from the outside door handle. In fact, I would have to press the button and push the door open at the same time or I would get trapped in the car. But I guess I just keep taking it back to the dealership so they can say there is nothing wrong with the car!

They need to purchase my 2020 back, but they will not be that nice to me and make me get an attorney. My 2020 is doing this thing where it turns on the welcome lights and raises and lowers, and I am nowhere near the vehicle with the key. If I don't start my Aviator every day, it will welcome till it kills the battery and I have to jump the vehicle. Good thing I don't leave it parked at the airport and come back to it for several days or weeks. As far as your theory, the flickering backup cam is common to 2021 models is inaccurate. My 2020 does the same thing. There is nothing that can be done had it back to the dealer two times for that issue.

My 2020 Aviator Reserve II is doing that, it was doing that when I dropped it off at the dealer. It was even more amusing watching the looks on their face when my touch screen went completely black and we couldn't turn the radio off.

Mine does the same thing..