Lee2021

"Don't read the internet" (said dripping with disgust) is what many say, including mine 4 years ago. My dealer 4 years ago ordered my ST after the orders had been cut off. For whatever reason, the ford system didn't warn him. Took me 1.5 months to convince him to ask his ford rep and that he needed to find a car in inventory somewhere - which he did! I actually gave him a picture I got off of blueovalforums of the last Focus off of the line from an employee. Why is this forum such a threat? Well, I can answer that...... Read the x plan pricing agreement, like this paragraph: and then the pricing agreement: See where the Ford document says "Dealer may mail check to customer"? You are good.

The check in 4-6 weeks IS how price protection works. Ford prints off the invoice at the current price and then the difference is given either to the dealer or to the customer in about a month or so. He doesn't have anything to base the refunded dollar amount other than the difference between the x-plan then (on order), and the x-plan now. If he didn't have x-plan on your truck then (on order), he can't figure it out. Or at least not easily. It's possible, but having Ford mail you the check is one of the very acceptable options and leaves the dealers math skills out of the equation. In this case, he is giving you the straight poop.

Ordered 11-1 Lariat Ultimate BAP 5th wheel prep 6.7 lots of cameras and the silly little knob on the dash (that does work!) bunch of other stuff CCSB Scheduled on 3/17 for week of 4/25 Day schedule moved from 4/27 to 4/30. No other bumps yet. Went "in production" today! So will it be towing at the end of June, or middle of July? Who wants to buy a 2001 Suburban 2500 in very good condition? The icing on the cake would be a PCO!

Vin 1FT8W3BT3NEE40850 Carbonized Ultimate 6.7 f-350 Black appearance scheduled date? Thanks!

This is geared towards both the buyer AND the dealers. He acknowledges that many dealers don't know much about this. It's short, and gets the point across.

same story from my dealer. I understand their position. I am still undecided if this is a reasonable policy, or just lazy. But I am scheduled as of yesterday, so it does work.

So why do Tremors not need the prius catchers? Are they lower than the stock 4wd trucks? - I think not! If they are there to prevent the truck from riding over small cars during an accident, Tremors should need them also. Just figuring out if i want to remove a "safety device" and showing that other trucks don't have them.

BAP doesn't look like it has front wheel liners, so - Front wheel liners: factory or aftermarket?

WOOHOOO!!! Ordered 11/1. Includes Black Out Package and 5th wheel prep. I was wanting to swap out to the non-bedliner Black Out Package to increase my chance, but Ford's system wasn't allowing it. Hang in there everyone!

What’s their name, and where do they work?

this directly shows the challenges that dealers have changing from a ‘what will it take to buy this truck today’, to a ‘here is how I will help you with the long process of ordering and waiting for a truck’ mentality. Many won’t make it. It’s a classic example of ‘who moved the cheese’.

Thanks for the update. Strange that it was added to the ordering guide and Ford.com, but there isn't a way to order it yet.

Anyone have success changing to or ordering the black appearance package without Bedliner yet? Is the ordering system fixed?

no, talked to dealer 2 hours ago, and they can’t figure out how to do it. Please let us know if anyone is able to.

OK, thanks. So not the $595 that the bedliner costs on its own, but a majority of it.

Has anyone been able to order the Black Appearance Package withOUT the bedliner? My dealer didn't know about it, so I sent the updated order guide. Nothing more yet. Before I just say "go", I want to know what the difference in price is by removing the bedliner.

Most of us have seen or commented on this over on the Super Duty order page, but if someone hasn't yet, Ford offered a solution to this. And yes, some are not too happy that it didn't happen earlier. The updated 2022 Super Duty Pick-Up Order Guide is now available for download in the Dealer Order Guides section. NOTE: Includes the new Lariat Black Appearance Package Without Spray-In Bedliner (17M) LARIAT BLACK APPEARANCE PACKAGE WITHOUT SPRAY-IN BEDLINER (17M) Availability: ● Optional on Lariat Crew Cab Not available with: ● Camper Package (471) ● Snowplow/Camper Package (47B) Requires: ● 4x4 ● F-250 or F-350 SRW Includes: ● 6” Ebony Black Angular – Running Boards ● 20” Ebony Black Painted Premium Aluminum Wheel ● LT275/65R 20E OWL A/T (TCW) ● Black Ford Oval Logos, Front and Rear ● Body-color front and rear bumper ● Ebony Black Fender Vent Surround ● Ebony Black Painted front Grille Bars ● Ebony Black Painted Mirror Caps ● Gray and Black Box Decals (4x4, FX4 and Tremor) ● Headlamps – Black out surrounds, LED only ● Wheel Well Liner, Rear (61M)

NOTE: Includes the new Lariat Black Appearance Package Without Spray-In Bedliner (17M) Ford.com has not been updated with this option yet. According to the order guide, it looks like the "old" black out package with the spray in bedliner is no longer offered both options are available now (edit, upon closer inspection of guide). That's a pretty good idea, Ford. Of course we can't see pricing yet. Dealer may though.... time for a call.

Hmmmm, well that is interesting. I couldn't drop the spray-in liner because I didn't want to get rid of Black appearance (there are a few other threads with same sentiment). Now we can. Going over to Ford.com to see if the price is appropriately less. Thanks for the callout, almost like you knew we would be interested!!

Just curious, which Corwin Ford Location? I ordered from the Corwin Spokane just after it was purchased by Corwin. They got my order entered correctly, as I quickly received a confirmation email. Now I wait.

Its probably blatantly obvious, but here is another official word: https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/ford-halt-some-f-150-pickup-production-week-due-semiconductor-shortage Earlier this month, Ford said it would continue to idle some of its assembly plants in the week of Feb. 14 due to semiconductor bottlenecks. In another cutback, Ford’s Kentucky Truck Plant, which builds Super Duty, Expedition and Navigator, will operate on just one shift next week, per a memo to employees A shortage of semiconductors that are used for everything from computer management of engines to driver-assistance features has hit several automakers across the globe forcing some to produce vehicles without certain features.

For me, Wendle was very good to work with before the sale with several visits and test drives, but ultimately they wouldn't do x-plan. So I ordered across town at Corwin on 11/1. The difference between MSRP and x-plan was just too much to ignore. I'll report how it goes when the truck is scheduled, built and delivered.

Yes, we know about longer wait time. Yours is first that I have heard for an outright statement of ‘we won’t build it’. All of us know about ‘we won’t build it’ for stock orders, but not for confirmed retail orders. Was it just a ‘longer wait’ statement, or a ‘we won’t build it’? the dealer installed option is normally around $1200 or so, while the factory is half that. Did your dealer work out something with ford so that the dealer installed option is similar in price?

The issue that hasn't been stated here yet, is that many dealers won't do x-plan pricing. So your dealer may say no when the truck comes in, unless you have pre-arranged that it will be an x-plan deal. Part of the x-plan pricing agreement is that the x-plan pricing known when ordering. Some they will, some they won't, some you just can't tell. give them a call!

So Ford is scheduling ~8k trucks per week, with a large percentage (half?) being customer orders. In this forum, we are talking to maybe a couple of hundred at a time, so we are just hearing about the experiences from just a very very small percentage of all customers. We are probably the most demanding and frustrating customers that dealers work with. I wonder if our experiences are similar to all the rest of the world, or if we are less pleased due to our demanding nature? It would be fun to talk to a Ford business analytics person over a beer or three!