sparkman Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 no news on 2000 salaried layoffs ? where when anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktpworker69 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 no news on 2000 salaried layoffs ? where when anybody know? heard a little about this at KTP tuesday night. it would be a good start in becoming profitable again, no offense to any salary personell, but ford has way to many chiefs compared to the amount of indians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerhero Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 heard a little about this at KTP tuesday night. it would be a good start in becoming profitable again, no offense to any salary personell, but ford has way to many chiefs compared to the amount of indians They could layoff all the front line supervisors and replace them with $14 hour part-time supervisors form UPS, think of all the money they would save. :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULJABOY Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Those LAY-OFFS can't come soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 They could layoff all the front line supervisors and replace them with $14 hour part-time supervisors form UPS, think of all the money they would save. :happy feet: Good point, homer! How many new Ford vehicles will those $14/hr. part-time supervisors buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigh Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 They could layoff all the front line supervisors and replace them with $14 hour part-time supervisors form UPS, think of all the money they would save. :happy feet: Actually at Wayne Assy, rumor has it that Management would like to get rid of the foremen and use Quality Leaders to do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun3 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Actually at Wayne Assy, rumor has it that Management would like to get rid of the foremen and use Quality Leaders to do their jobs. Leader are suck a##es anyway. They are non-union at best. they tell the supervisors how to run the areas and squeal like pigs about everyone!!! Especially at Rawsonville!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbores6511 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Leader are suck a##es anyway. They are non-union at best. they tell the supervisors how to run the areas and squeal like pigs about everyone!!! Especially at Rawsonville!! Okay, this comment makes me angry. I used to be a supervisor for many years and I am now hourly now for many years as well. I have seen both sides. We are a union and need to stick together period, however, what good is a union when there is no company to work for. These people need to be concerned about production, quality etc. If Ford gets good people as groupleders etc. then they won't need supervisors. I think we are getting to that point. I think alot of them can go now. With your attitude we will be going bankrupt before long. I wish people would care more about the company they work for and what they are doing. It is so sad. Just because you don't care.... don't knock others who do. P.S. I am not a groupleader and do not want to ever be, I am happy working on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Okay, this comment makes me angry. I used to be a supervisor for many years and I am now hourly now for many years as well. I have seen both sides. We are a union and need to stick together period, however, what good is a union when there is no company to work for. These people need to be concerned about production, quality etc. If Ford gets good people as groupleders etc. then they won't need supervisors. I think we are getting to that point. I think alot of them can go now. With your attitude we will be going bankrupt before long. I wish people would care more about the company they work for and what they are doing. It is so sad. Just because you don't care.... don't knock others who do. P.S. I am not a groupleader and do not want to ever be, I am happy working on the line. +1 here! Over the years, we've had people go from salaried to hourly---and vice/versa--- even today. The vast majority of them are honest, hard working people just like most of us. Sure, we've had some asshats---and still do---on both sides. Call me a suckass, but my current supervisor is a good boss; he's fair with people, and he does as good a job as anyone, considering all the shit he has to deal with. He drives Fords. And he still has a sense of humor! Hey Alan Mulally, Mark Fields, Joe Hinrichs, etc.---are you listening? Wanna help our company survive and prosper? Wanna build morale and help sell cars & trucks? Don't lay salaried people off---restore their pay & benefits. Including Visteon/ACH people who had their pay, benefits, pension and healthcare reduced or eliminated. Let's grow---instead of cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun3 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 +1 here! Over the years, we've had people go from salaried to hourly---and vice/versa--- even today. The vast majority of them are honest, hard working people just like most of us. Sure, we've had some asshats---and still do---on both sides. Call me a suckass, but my current supervisor is a good boss; he's fair with people, and he does as good a job as anyone, considering all the shit he has to deal with. He drives Fords. And he still has a sense of humor! Hey Alan Mulally, Mark Fields, Joe Hinrichs, etc.---are you listening? Wanna help our company survive and prosper? Wanna build morale and help sell cars & trucks? Don't lay salaried people off---restore their pay & benefits. Including Visteon/ACH people who had their pay, benefits, pension and healthcare reduced or eliminated. Let's grow---instead of cutting. Only talking from my experience. I get along great with most supervisors and give a damn about what I do. I want my job to last for several generations. I think that leaders are the wrong way to go--my feelings. Just makes union people play on the wrong side of the fence. I don't think it is possible to be leaders the way they want it done and still be a good union member. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks will fly Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Good point, homer! How many new Ford vehicles will those $14/hr. part-time supervisors buy? About as many as the TPT's that make $14 would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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