sparks will fly

Oh yes because I TRUST Wall Street.

Sorry you are right, now I remember why I don't come here often. So much for talking about what is going on at Ford.

Wow you all sound like a bunch of stupid little brats besides this website was built to talk about Ford it's products, and the people that work there. Maybe all you brainiatcs should start a political forum where you can talk about DC all day, in the meantime they ALL (politicians) continue to stick it to US (people).

We have a winner!

Am I missing something here? You are complaining about stock incentives not pay, so if you own a major amount of ford stock in your 401 you made out as well. In fact after the visteon buyout this is the first time since my money is back to those levels.

H code is actually loss of time due to act of god non paid no penalty.

After seeing a Toyota commercial just now on MNF, it doesn't look like Toyota buyers are getting any smarter. The man looks like he is lost and the woman is in lala land.............sad. Just looking at them I would think if I buy one of these will I look that stupid?

IF KCAP did not say no would DTP? I'd say they might have followed the lead either way. Like you said it is easier to follow......

Nice union reply jackoff. skilled trades pays dues too. Union brother my ass.

Your serious? 85% or more of the way people act on here is about as close to real life as it gets. Most of the time you need to learn to read between the lines and let people speak. Besides believe it or not we all adults and choice is what makes our world great, if you don't like the way things go on here you have a choice too........

Bunch of Michigan whiners talk about KCAP. Find The General he will help he knows all.

It's a border war thing, like all the Michagan - Ohio war I've read on here in the past.

To bad Ford doesn't have a plant in Kansas.

Sounds about right, must be the reason the buyout was the right choice for me. Only thing is the good old boy network didn't always stem from the right good old boys.

Uuuuummmmm, no.

Well it's been awhile but isn't a standard cab w/ 8' box (139"wb) and a foor door with a 5.5' box (139"wb) the same size? Hint the answer is in the question. So the frame carriers are different how? Besides the frame carrier holds 126" to 163" frames at the same time, whats unsafe?

Did you say Mexican or American?

If it should be taught in high school then shouldn't the little shits be able to retain some of it by the first year of college? If they can't remember that (which I doubt that the learned it at all) then what are these careers they are picking? We have become to soft.

About as many as the TPT's that make $14 would be my guess.

Considering that KCAP is a deul plant with the SUV side having more demand, it is not suprising that the management or the UAW can come to terms on how to handle the problems. It seems that the logicial way is to put trucks back to 5-8's and feed SUV people on an as needed basis, ie bad weather. As for the general his bais against KCAP started from his first post on BON, showing his knowlege of Ford, or lack of.

But they are eligable for thier penion as early as 55 years old.

Funny how most trade unions are self funded for insurance and retirement without to many problems, With the UAW stepping up to the plate on this maybe the big 3 can tell us public what the wages really are not some made up $73 B.S.

It was directed to me mr. ballsonya, and yes I did buy a Dodge for several reasons mostly a 6.5' box 4 door and it will still fit in the garage. I have drove Ford trucks all my life but this choice was based on future needs for me and my family.

Everyday that I'm away from Ford and read stuff like this I'm glad I took the buyout. I once was proud to say I worked for them now I'm glad to say I don't, what a difference a few years make.