America Doesn't Care About The Big3

[Versa-Tech]

One thing I hate about newer Fords is that they don't feel like traditional Fords anymore.

My Fusion doesn't feel like US car. It feels like a Mazda which sucks. If I wanted a Mazda I would've bought one, I don't wanna a Mazda in Ford's body.

 

So basically I have 4 Fords now, I love all of them except Fusion which I'm really avoiding to drive. It simply doesn't feel like a traditional Ford. And if Ford continue to build cars like that (that share too many parts with Mazda or Volvo) I'll be switching to another brand.

 

When I got my Fusion I traded in 1997 Dodge Intrepid. I still regret that decision. Intrepid was junk, but it was so fun to drive and felt like a real Dodge.

This is what you get when you let a nostalgic communist on BON...

[Red Star]

What can I say, it ain't my fault that Ford is taking Mazdas/Volvos, changing the body and calling them Fords.

 

I still prefer Fords compared to other brands, mostly because Mustangs and F-150s are done so well, but I'm regretting a decision to buy a Fusion, simply because its not a Ford - its a Mazda.

 

And by the way, America doesn't care about Big 3 simply because Big 3 didn't care about America for the past 30 years. Pretty much everything that Big 3 produced in the past 30 years or so was junk compared to imports from Japan.

Edited December 24, 2008 by Red Star

[Versa-Tech]

What can I say, it ain't my fault that Ford is taking Mazdas/Volvos, changing the body and calling them Fords.

 

I still prefer Fords compared to other brands, mostly because Mustangs and F-150s are done so well, but I'm regretting a decision to buy a Fusion, simply because its not a Ford - its a Mazda.

 

And by the way, America doesn't care about Big 3 simply because Big 3 didn't care about America for the past 30 years. Pretty much everything that Big 3 produced in the past 30 years or so was junk compared to imports from Japan.

We have ourselves a genuine Geraldo interviewee here fellas...

[simplesituations]

What can I say, it ain't my fault that Ford is taking Mazdas/Volvos, changing the body and calling them Fords.

 

I still prefer Fords compared to other brands, mostly because Mustangs and F-150s are done so well, but I'm regretting a decision to buy a Fusion, simply because its not a Ford - its a Mazda.

 

And by the way, America doesn't care about Big 3 simply because Big 3 didn't care about America for the past 30 years. Pretty much everything that Big 3 produced in the past 30 years or so was junk compared to imports from Japan.

typical, disregard the last 5 yrs and now according to JD Power the quality line has been so blurred that they use the term "minuscule"

between the automakers and it doesn't make a difference what ya buy now in terms of quality but I guess the public can't grasp that.

[Red Star]

typical, disregard the last 5 yrs and now according to JD Power the quality line has been so blurred that they use the term "minuscule"

between the automakers and it doesn't make a difference what ya buy now in terms of quality but I guess the public can't grasp that.

 

It took Big 3 ~30 years to ruin their reputation and now they would like to get it back in a short time?

 

Even if Big 3 did match import's quality, people's opinion about vehicles won't change overnight.

[simplesituations]

Did yours change

[Red Star]

Did yours change

 

My opinion about Ford (and cars in general) was always the same. I grew up in Europe and I always liked Escort, Sierra, Capri and other European Fords. I was also a big fan of Mercedes, Fiat and Citroen, which I still like today. Ford is still my favorite brand, it always has been, but I'm really starting to hate the fact that they share too many parts with Mazda and Volvo.

[simplesituations]

My opinion about Ford (and cars in general) was always the same. I grew up in Europe and I always liked Escort, Sierra, Capri and other European Fords. I was also a big fan of Mercedes, Fiat and Citroen, which I still like today. Ford is still my favorite brand, it always has been, but I'm really starting to hate the fact that they share too many parts with Mazda and Volvo.

but that's cost savings are achieved to a point, plus in Europe the people are more loyal to their own brands and that makes a difference.

[Versa-Tech]

My opinion about Ford (and cars in general) was always the same. I grew up in Europe and I always liked Escort, Sierra, Capri and other European Fords. I was also a big fan of Mercedes, Fiat and Citroen, which I still like today. Ford is still my favorite brand, it always has been, but I'm really starting to hate the fact that they share too many parts with Mazda and Volvo.

Uhh, dude... Mazda and Volvo use Ford parts. So if anything, you should like the new Mazdas and Volvos because they feel like Fords...

 

Wow... for someone on BON, you are terribly misinformed.

[2005Explorer]

One thing I hate about newer Fords is that they don't feel like traditional Fords anymore.

My Fusion doesn't feel like US car. It feels like a Mazda which sucks. If I wanted a Mazda I would've bought one, I don't wanna a Mazda in Ford's body.

 

So basically I have 4 Fords now, I love all of them except Fusion which I'm really avoiding to drive. It simply doesn't feel like a traditional Ford. And if Ford continue to build cars like that (that share too many parts with Mazda or Volvo) I'll be switching to another brand.

 

When I got my Fusion I traded in 1997 Dodge Intrepid. I still regret that decision. Intrepid was junk, but it was so fun to drive and felt like a real Dodge.

 

Now this is something you don't hear everyday. I own a Fusion and before I owned a couple of Explorers I had a 2000 Mercury Sable. The Sable was a nice car with the Duratec 30, but I would NEVER trade the ride, handling, and overall fit and finish of my Fusion for it. It felt "numb" and disconnected out on the road. The Fusion is a MUCH better driving car. I know this is my opinion, however if Ford decided they were going to go back to a traditional chassis like my Sable had I would be leaving the brand. I think most people would. You can't make everyone happy, but you aim to make the largest majority happy. Mazda excels in chassis design and I think Ford was smart to borrow it for the Fusion.

 

My father has been driving Fords since he bought a slightly used 1954 2-Door. I would need him here to help me with this list, but as far as I can remember he owned a 1954, 1959 Galaxy 4-door (he fell asleep and wreaked it), 1960 Galaxy 4-Door, 1964 Galaxy 4-Door, 1968 Torino 302, 1972 LTD 2-Door 400 V8, 1976 Elite 351, 1980 Mercury Cougar (this is the only Ford he ever hated), 1984 Thunderbird V8, 1990 Thunderbird V6, 1994 Thunderbird LX V6, 2000 Taurus Duratec 30, and now he has a 2007 Ford Fusion V6. He bought everyone of those cars new except for a couple with a few miles on them. He just turned 72 years old and as you can see he has been a good lifelong Ford owner. His first car was a used 1950 Chevy. He hated it and never went back to anything built by GM.

 

The reason I told you all of that is because he will tell you point blank that the Fusion is the best Ford car he has ever owned. He will tell you it drives, handles and rides better then any other Ford he has owned large and small. It's too bad that you hate driving your Fusion because most people love driving theirs and Ford is in the business of catering to the majority of owners.

[Red Star]

Now this is something you don't hear everyday. I own a Fusion and before I owned a couple of Explorers I had a 2000 Mercury Sable. The Sable was a nice car with the Duratec 30, but I would NEVER trade the ride, handling, and overall fit and finish of my Fusion for it. It felt "numb" and disconnected out on the road. The Fusion is a MUCH better driving car. I know this is my opinion, however if Ford decided they were going to go back to a traditional chassis like my Sable had I would be leaving the brand. I think most people would. You can't make everyone happy, but you aim to make the largest majority happy. Mazda excels in chassis design and I think Ford was smart to borrow it for the Fusion.

 

My father has been driving Fords since he bought a slightly used 1954 2-Door. I would need him here to help me with this list, but as far as I can remember he owned a 1954, 1959 Galaxy 4-door (he fell asleep and wreaked it), 1960 Galaxy 4-Door, 1964 Galaxy 4-Door, 1968 Torino 302, 1972 LTD 2-Door 400 V8, 1976 Elite 351, 1980 Mercury Cougar (this is the only Ford he ever hated), 1984 Thunderbird V8, 1990 Thunderbird V6, 1994 Thunderbird LX V6, 2000 Taurus Duratec 30, and now he has a 2007 Ford Fusion V6. He bought everyone of those cars new except for a couple with a few miles on them. He just turned 72 years old and as you can see he has been a good lifelong Ford owner. His first car was a used 1950 Chevy. He hated it and never went back to anything built by GM.

 

The reason I told you all of that is because he will tell you point blank that the Fusion is the best Ford car he has ever owned. He will tell you it drives, handles and rides better then any other Ford he has owned large and small. It's too bad that you hate driving your Fusion because most people love driving theirs and Ford is in the business of catering to the majority of owners.

 

Fusion was the best car I ever owned (until I recently got my 2008 Mustang GT), but its my least favorite. I just don't like it. Maybe I just expected too much from Fusion to be as powerful, comfortable and quiet as my Intrepid (which Fusion is not). Intrepid was ready for a junkyard at 103,000 miles on the odometer so we had to sell it.

In Europe we had 1979 and 1984 Zastava 101 and 1983 Volkswagen Golf (God I miss that car) and since moving to the United States we had 1992 Escort, 1991 Taurus, 1997 Dodge Intrepid, 1994 Camry, 2000 Mustang, 2005 F-150, 2008 Fusion and 2008 Mustang GT (we still own last 5 on the list).

[Versa-Tech]

Fusion was the best car I ever owned (until I recently got my 2008 Mustang GT), but its my least favorite. I just don't like it. Maybe I just expected too much from Fusion to be as powerful, comfortable and quiet as my Intrepid (which Fusion is not). Intrepid was ready for a junkyard at 103,000 miles on the odometer so we had to sell it.

In Europe we had 1979 and 1984 Zastava 101 and 1983 Volkswagen Golf (God I miss that car) and since moving to the United States we had 1992 Escort, 1991 Taurus, 1997 Dodge Intrepid, 1994 Camry, 2000 Mustang, 2005 F-150, 2008 Fusion and 2008 Mustang GT (we still own last 5 on the list).

Your statements are contradictory.

[NickF1011]

One thing I hate about newer Fords is that they don't feel like traditional Fords anymore.

My Fusion doesn't feel like US car. It feels like a Mazda which sucks. If I wanted a Mazda I would've bought one, I don't wanna a Mazda in Ford's body.

 

So basically I have 4 Fords now, I love all of them except Fusion which I'm really avoiding to drive. It simply doesn't feel like a traditional Ford. And if Ford continue to build cars like that (that share too many parts with Mazda or Volvo) I'll be switching to another brand.

 

When I got my Fusion I traded in 1997 Dodge Intrepid. I still regret that decision. Intrepid was junk, but it was so fun to drive and felt like a real Dodge.

 

If you haven't noticed, nobody wants "traditional Fords" anymore. Witness sales of the traditional Panthers. The rest of the world has moved on. So has Ford.