downriverrat Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 First I’ve heard rumors that Saline is going back to a FORD facility for months now, which I never believed because it doesn’t make good business sense for Ford to do that now. Today I was told that people have seen a semi truck on the plant property with Blue Oval signs in it??? Bullshit???? Anybody heard this? If Saline did go back to Ford: A: All Saline workers that flowed out of that plant as an ACH that was slated to be sold or closed by 2008 should have first rights to return!!!!! B: All the recent openings that were posted as a “temporary” should have to be reposted! Secondly; this whole Saline deal makes no since. I understand the need to empty the jobs bank, but instead of creating all of this “temporary” churning why would the union and the company just tell the people in the bank to report to Saline? Saline is not a Ford plant, and bank people could have been placed there temporarily. Wow.. job bank empty.. quick, easy, simple. Now you’ve got all these people moving and being backfilled with bank people temporally. We were told that the 200+ openings created at our plant by the Saline volunteers will be filled by available job bank people, and they will be “loaned” to us as temporaries with no seniority…????? I’ve never heard of such a thing, and I wonder if the bank people are aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 That rumor has been going around since the first bolt was put in the Visteon sign, And continued during the ACH sign install. There are Ford Rawsonville trucks bringing "trailers" in. Over the years, The oval sign has been "under a tarp in Wixom" in our "east warehouse" (just last week!LMAO!) in "our polebarn" etc. Don't get sucked into a rumor bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatbaby Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) That rumor has been going around since the first bolt was put in the Visteon sign, And continued during the ACH sign install.There are Ford Rawsonville trucks bringing "trailers" in. Over the years, The oval sign has been "under a tarp in Wixom" in our "east warehouse" (just last week!LMAO!) in "our polebarn" etc. Don't get sucked into a rumor bro. Maybe...if everyone stuck together, in all the "Ford owned" facilities, we could convince Ford to take Saline back. This would create more jobs for Ford workers and get seniority rights back for all who are transferring to Saline. Okay Assembly Plants...refuse product from Saline until the Blue Oval goes back up in front of the plant. That should work! All in the name of Solidarity!!!!!!! Edited February 8, 2009 by boatbaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Maybe...if everyone stuck together, in all the "Ford owned" facilities, we could convince Ford to take Saline back. This would create more jobs for Ford workers and get seniority rights back for all who are transferring to Saline. Okay Assembly Plants...refuse product from Saline until the Blue Oval goes back up in front of the plant. That should work! All in the name of Solidarity!!!!!!! Nobody wishes that would happen more than me, but wake up...you're dreaming!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Sorry guys to inform you, but I have the lowdown on this, Saline is indeed now back to being a Ford Facility and this is why I signed up. Ford bought this plant back because there was an issue with ACH or whoever was slated to actually purchase it just didn't. And because of the new layoff agreement the UAW now has with Ford and the Gen pool is eliminated they were able to keep it Ford. Of course not all plants were this lucky. Sheldon Rd is still up for sale and there is over 150 people left. [wiping eyes from the tears]You have the lowdown and yet, You don't even know who backed out of the purchase! LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Ford bought this plant back because...." Damn, I needed that laugh! [/wiping eyes from the tears!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah no kidding, Wildo...I got a good laugh out of that, too. That guy is either stirring the pot or highly misinformed! hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Saline is not a Ford plant. Saline is not planned on being a Ford plant ever again. Everybody that is transferring there is transferring with temp status, and they are only allowing Ford workers to transfer there to open spots up to empty the GEN pool. Saline will still be either sold or closed, just as it has always intended to be, and there is no information to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downriverrat Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 This guy must have seen the Blue Oval sign in the trailer I had heard about :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I also was told the sign is in the barn out back. I believe it probably is true, however it is most likely the one they took down many years ago to put the "Visteon" sign up. JMO. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I also was told the sign is in the barn out back. I believe it probably is true, however it is most likely the one they took down many years ago to put the "Visteon" sign up. JMO. :shades: Man I used to love looking at that sign every day when I walked into the plant....sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Sorry guys to inform you, but I have the lowdown on this, Saline is indeed now back to being a Ford Facility and this is why I signed up. Ford bought this plant back because there was an issue with ACH or whoever was slated to actually purchase it just didn't. And because of the new layoff agreement the UAW now has with Ford and the Gen pool is eliminated they were able to keep it Ford. Of course not all plants were this lucky. Sheldon Rd is still up for sale and there is over 150 people left. IMHO,WDMJS (in my humble opinion, which doesn't mean jack shit): I don't know if Ford could "buy" Saline (or Sandusky, Sheldon Road, Utica, or Indy) from ACH, since Ford already owns these plants. At Indy, since almost 100% of our "life support" (money, systems, etc.) is Ford, I'd say we're 99% a Ford plant. Since the company DID re-sign Sterling and Rawsonville as Ford, it's possible at Saline, too. And the plant could still be slated for sale or closure. P.S. with Johnson Controls---one of the strongest independent suppliers---backing out of buying into Saline, does anybody see any other company interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Man I used to love looking at that sign every day when I walked into the plant....sigh. I used to love walking out of this gate. But its gone too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 IMHO,WDMJS (in my humble opinion, which doesn't mean jack shit): I don't know if Ford could "buy" Saline (or Sandusky, Sheldon Road, Utica, or Indy) from ACH, since Ford already owns these plants. At Indy, since almost 100% of our "life support" (money, systems, etc.) is Ford, I'd say we're 99% a Ford plant. Since the company DID re-sign Sterling and Rawsonville as Ford, it's possible at Saline, too. And the plant could still be slated for sale or closure. P.S. with Johnson Controls---one of the strongest independent suppliers---backing out of buying into Saline, does anybody see any other company interested? this is just my meaning less 2 cents, I think it will remain ACH llc. for the fact is this, by having a limited liability co. It some how is allowing for some form of accounting trickery in favor of Ford Motor Co. When they chose to take back the 21 Visteon plants , there was a reason ACH was formed. I'm not an accounting expert ,but I would believe this was very well thought out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I used to love walking out of this gate. But its gone too! Do you guys make parts for the foreign car in that picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Well if there is one thing I've learned since Visteon was spun off is never say never. I've seen so many things happen that I would never have believed years ago would happen, that nothing surprises me anymore. Anything CAN happen. And you people that are saying this will never happen or that will never happen know it, too. I'm not holding my breath for the Blue Oval to come back to Saline. But I CAN see (assuming no buyer comes forward) that eventually maybe they'll slap a different name on the front and it will be called a subsidiary of Ford and actually be owned and operated by Ford but not have the name out front. I know they don't WANT to be in the parts business, but a different name might be enough to separate the two to please the notion that they aren't in the parts business and still keep the plant going because they need the parts, Saline does an outstanding job at it, and it's the right location. Who really knows at this point? Time will tell. Edited February 9, 2009 by fordguy61mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Do you guys make parts for the foreign car in that picture? lol.. you mean that made in mexico fusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 lol.. you mean that made in mexico fusion? Yeah. That's the foreign car I was referring to. Does Saline make parts for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Yeah. That's the foreign car I was referring to. Does Saline make parts for it? as of last april when I was there, they didn't, they might be now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 No, we don't have the Fusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propain Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 was driving thru Saline today and snapped this photo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on layoff Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I used to love walking out of this gate. But its gone too! that's my old area there behind that dock door now there's about 10 more dock doors there now isn't there? I'll be lost when I go back in a few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypsiford4605 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 was driving thru Saline today and snapped this photo: can anyone else confirm or deny this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on layoff Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 can anyone else confirm or deny this? I think if you should be able to tell if it is real or not. you are pretty stupid if you can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypsiford4605 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think if you should be able to tell if it is real or not. you are pretty stupid if you can't oh I see, and no I didn't really look i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propain Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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