mikem12 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 from Grassfire.org We just got off the phone with some of our contacts on the Hill and it is now clear that President Obama's budget -- complete with over $1.6 trillion in new taxes including the new global warming tax -- is now on a fast track in Congress. The Senate could vote on approving the Obama budget as early as next week with the House to follow shortly thereafter. Our contacts tell us Congress could pass this budget before the Easter break (which begins in less than three weeks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatbaby Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 from Grassfire.org We just got off the phone with some of our contacts on the Hill and it is now clear that President Obama's budget -- complete with over $1.6 trillion in new taxes including the new global warming tax -- is now on a fast track in Congress. The Senate could vote on approving the Obama budget as early as next week with the House to follow shortly thereafter. Our contacts tell us Congress could pass this budget before the Easter break (which begins in less than three weeks). Where does it end??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattack Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 from Grassfire.org We just got off the phone with some of our contacts on the Hill and it is now clear that President Obama's budget -- complete with over $1.6 trillion in new taxes including the new global warming tax -- is now on a fast track in Congress. The Senate could vote on approving the Obama budget as early as next week with the House to follow shortly thereafter. Our contacts tell us Congress could pass this budget before the Easter break (which begins in less than three weeks). This is The Blue Oval Forum........not a public media outlet. For Ford Employees/Retirees and their concerns about Ford Motor Company both good and bad.Let's keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 This is The Blue Oval Forum........not a public media outlet. For Ford Employees/Retirees and their concerns about Ford Motor Company both good and bad.Let's keep it that way. I guess you don't think these new taxes wont affect all us???? These new taxes should have great concerns for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 This is The Blue Oval Forum........not a public media outlet. For Ford Employees/Retirees and their concerns about Ford Motor Company both good and bad.Let's keep it that way. definition of "FORUM", A public meeting place for "OPEN" discussion. :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 definition of "FORUM", A public meeting place for "OPEN" discussion. :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: If he is a modirator I can understand him wanting to keep things in focus on issues that directly affect us, the UAW, that is why I posted the info. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattack Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 definition of "FORUM", A public meeting place for "OPEN" discussion. :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: on matters concerning Ford Motor and it's workers..(I'm glad you know your definitions) but this is the BOF not the editorial section of some newspaper. Taxes are everyone's concern but job issues/matters within Ford Motor belong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 on matters concerning Ford Motor and it's workers..(I'm glad you know your definitions) but this is the BOF not the editorial section of some newspaper. Taxes are everyone's concern but job issues/matters within Ford Motor belong here. You people who voted for them... IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. Just remember... Elections have consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvcpicker Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 You people who voted for them... IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. Just remember... Elections have consequences. If Bush was to blame leading up to this crisis, then Obama will take his share now. His taxes will effect peoples ability to use disposable income which will in turn effect their decsion to buy new cars. they are all to blame, and YES it belongs here every bit as much as the bush/republican bashers before obama took office. dems are full of shit too and will screw people to get what they want! :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Just remember... Elections have consequences. Yeah, we won't forget the consequences of the past 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs84 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Obama and the dems would never screw us over. The UAW wouldn't have labored so hard to get him into office if he wasn't all for us. That is why the contract changes we just voted on will never fly. Obama will make sure of that. He is 100% UAW proud. He would never let anything that we as union members wanted, be taken away from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 on matters concerning Ford Motor and it's workers..(I'm glad you know your definitions) but this is the BOF not the editorial section of some newspaper. Taxes are everyone's concern but job issues/matters within Ford Motor belong here. Funny higher taxes mean less jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterchief Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Obama and the dems would never screw us over. The UAW wouldn't have labored so hard to get him into office if he wasn't all for us. That is why the contract changes we just voted on will never fly. Obama will make sure of that. He is 100% UAW proud. He would never let anything that we as union members wanted, be taken away from us. Dude, I want some of your drugs...Wow that is amazing. You actually believe that any political party cares for the middle class? I hope your post was Facetious Remember SOCIALISM works until you run out of money. Then ask yourself where is all of this trillion dollars of stimulus money coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs84 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Believe me, I am being sarcastic. I was just making fun of all the people who think he is the answer to all things. He and the dems will take away just as much as anyone else, if it benefits them. If not, then obama and the dems wouldn't have let the big 3 take us back to the bargaining table and take more things away. Why are they not stopping this and giving us everything we want since they support the unions so much. They do just as many things to hurt us then they do to help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yeah, we won't forget the consequences of the past 8 years. But what about the 8 years before that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 But what about the 8 years before that? Not sure. I was too busy spending those fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime to notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end of time Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Not sure. I was too busy spending those fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime to notice. I to was to busy spending all the money from the fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime. Then those smart republicans got into office. Boy it did not take them long to put a stop to all of that. Now with the country in the biggest recession (depression) ever. (Thank You Republicans) They want to blame the big O. Hell he just took over. ITs going to take time and be hard on all of us. But if bush would have done SOMETHING, ANYTHING, it would not be as bad as its going to be before its all over. I am not a big fan of either party, but all 8 years of bush has been 8 years to many. It has been long over due for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) I to was to busy spending all the money from the fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime. Then those smart republicans got into office. Boy it did not take them long to put a stop to all of that. Now with the country in the biggest recession (depression) ever. (Thank You Republicans) They want to blame the big O. Hell he just took over. ITs going to take time and be hard on all of us. But if bush would have done SOMETHING, ANYTHING, it would not be as bad as its going to be before its all over. I am not a big fan of either party, but all 8 years of bush has been 8 years to many. It has been long over due for a change. I love it when a koolaid drinker get amnesia. You aren't going to like the change the big "0" is going to give you . His new budget has tax increases across the board. He back off the carbon tax but wait now it's called the cap and trade tax. Same thing just a different name and a 1.6 trillion price tag that everyone old, young, rich and poor will pay and since the majority of smokers are in the lower half of the economic group they now will pay 6 dollars more for smokes. Yeah change we can believe in. We, the middle class and poor can't afford it though. Did you also hear they just bought another triiion dollar in treasury notes that is being held by the FED. They aren't spending it but wait a bit you will see things happening that you might not like when you can't afford to buy your toys or necessities. Now we have AIG giving millions out in bonuses and the morons running the show are trying to tell the public they didn't know any thing about it. You know the ones Geitner, Dodd, Frank, but wait seem that Geitner told (supposedly) Dodd to remove the clause in the tarp bill to allow bonuses when actual language was already there to prevent it. It's easy to say Obama can't be blamed but all you have to do is look at the Chicago style good ole boy politics that's coming our way. I don't like the Socialist agenda so Obama isn't my messiah, but I can agree that Bush did some things that weren't right either. also, the wicked witch of the west Pelosi did or has said that being an illegal immigrant is patriotic and that we shouldn't protect our borders! great googly moogly. as to living well I lived very well under the Bush admin, well at least until 06 when the Dems took over congress and if you want to blame someone for the economy you have to blame congress the President doesn't have the power to do anything there. That is and has been always the responsibility of congres. Edited March 19, 2009 by mikem12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnut69 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Not sure. I was too busy spending those fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime to notice. thats a good point. many many people were too busy riding the inflating bubble that just burst to notice a lot of things. things like handing over icbm technoogy to the chinese in order to help them be able to take over launching commercial satellites for us. things like letting terrorists run wild because fighting them wasnt popular with voters. check bin ladens fatwa issued as soon as we pulled out of somalia.check out khobar tower bombing,uss cole, 1993 wtc bombing.was no more decisive action warranted then???of course it was,it just wasnt popular then,things were going so well. remember the saying" its the economy stupid"? many things slipped right by us because we were happy with those checks you mentioned. we thought the party would never end. we were wrong. point is you really cant point the finger at bush and bush only. what is happening now has been brewing for longer than that. what if we had dealt with terrorism in the 90s when it may not have required so much defecit spending? wouldnt we be better off now? what if we hadnt bungled every involvement we had in the middle east since at least ww2? you may not like the decisions bush made, god knows i dont like many of them,but he didnt make them based on popularity polls, like clinton did. it may be more relevant to ask,had we elected mccain,would the chinese be harassing our ships at sea? would we be getting threatened by north korea and iran? joe biden warned us all remember?maybe not relevant at all. fuck it. anybody know where to get a good price on ammo?? lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Not sure. I was too busy spending those fat profit sharing checks and working lots of overtime to notice. I hope the preceding replies kinda lay out the generality of the issue for you. A lot of this shit goes back to the Clinton administration. Which looking back on it now. I wish it was 1993 all over again even though things for me personally were not too much better then either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 I hope the preceding replies kinda lay out the generality of the issue for you. A lot of this shit goes back to the Clinton administration. Which looking back on it now. I wish it was 1993 all over again even though things for me personally were not too much better then either. from a video posted at the wall street journal, can you say Hugo Chavez? Obama Argues for More Legal Authority in Light of AIG 3/18/2009 Speaking to reporters outside the White House and referring to circumstances surrounding AIG, President Obama says he is seeking legal authority over the financial system. Video courtesy of Fox News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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