Ford Jellymoulds Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) 382 laps. 3,247 miles. 24 hours. If you haven't been following along, that's the recipe for Peugeot's first and second place finish at the 2009 24 Hours of Le Mans. After a ten-minute stint in the pits, the No. 1 R15's fate was sealed, and when the checkered flag finally dropped, the Audi was seven laps behind the No. 9 Peugeot. But just as impressive asPeugeot's win (and its first-place standing since 9 pm last night) is the 007 Lola Aston Martin's fourth-place finish, the Corvette C6.R's complete and utter dominance of GT1 and the fact that every single GT2 car – including the No. 85 Spyker C8 Laviolette – beat out the lone Porsche 911 GT3 RSR after the three other 997s slowly succumbed to attrition. We're going to leave it to the analysts and commentators to pick apart how the race was won (or lost), but we will say that our first experience at Le Mans left us in awe of the competitors, the support teams and, most impressively, the mass of fans that descended on the circuit. It's a goosebump-inducing experience and needless to say, we highly recommend it. Time for a much-needed shower and some rest. Check the gallery below for plenty of photos from the finish and see the full standings here. Autoblog Photo LINK Gotta say l wish it was the 3 GT40's crossing the line together, nothing will ever be as special as that moment in time ever again, the mid 60's to early 70's Ford dominated every type of motorsport. Le Mans 24hr results 1. David Brabham (Australia) / Marc Gene (Spain) / Alexander Wurz (Austria), Peugeot Sport Total (Peugeot 908 HDi-FAP), 382 laps 2. Sebastien Bourdais (France) / Franck Montagny (France) / Stephane Sarrazin (France), Team Peugeot Total (Peugeot 908 HDi-FAP), 381 laps 3. Tom Kristensen (Denmark) / Dindo Capello (Italy) / Allan McNish (Scotland), Audi Sport Team Joest (Audi R15 TDI), 376 laps 4. Jan Charouz (Czech Republic) / Tomas Enge (Czech Republic) / Stefan Muecke (Germany), AMR Eastern Europe (Lola-Aston Martin LMP1), 373 laps 5. Nicolas Lapierre (France) / Olivier Panis (France) / Soheil Ayari (France), Team Oreca Matmut-AIM (Courage-Oreca LC70 AIM), 370 laps 6. Nicolas Minassian (France) / Pedro Lamy (Portugal) / Christian Klien (Austria), Team Peugeot Total (Peugeot 908 HDi-FAP), 369 laps 7. Narain Karthikeyan (India) / Charles Zwolsman (Netherlands) / Andre Lotterer (Germany), Kolles (Audi R10), 369 laps 8. Bruce Jouanny (France) / Christophe Tinseau (France) / Joao Barbosa (Portugal), Pescarolo Sport (Pescarolo LMP1 Judd), 368 laps 9. Christijan Albers (Netherlands) / Christian Bakkerud (Denmark) / Giorgio Mondini (Italy), Kolles (Audi R10), 360 laps 10. Casper Elgaard (Denmark) / Kristian Poulsen (Denmark) / Emmanuel Collard (France), Team Essex (Porsche RS Spyder), 357 laps Full Final Positions all the other cars LINK Edited June 14, 2009 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 LE MANS COURTING DISGRUNTLED F1 TEAMS Every F1 fan knows that while these might not be the darkest days for F1, they are certainly distracting and annoying. Max Mosley's years of unilaterally implementing rules might finally break up the F1 band, sending eight current teams into a breakaway F1 series or a different series entirely. If that happens, the people behind Le Mans have thrown open their doors to those poor, huddled masses. Remy Brouard said that not only would Le Mans organizers welcome former F1 entrants, it would give them a voice in drafting regulations. "If they want to make proposals," he said, "we will listen." Among the possible breakaway teams, Ferrari, Renault, BMW, McLaren and Toyota all have experience in F1, and the first four have won the race. As much as we don't want our F1 to burst, a 2010 Le Mans grid with those five entrants plus Audi, Peugeot, and Aston Martin would be nothing short of outstanding. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) :boring: Edited June 17, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Gotta say it must have been boring watching the leading fastest Corvette C6 R snail that got lapped 40 times and finished 545 km behind the Pug diesel tractor as it crossed the line at Le Mans. No wonder GM are in Chapter 11 Nick if they can't beat a Pug diesel tractors. :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: Edited June 17, 2009 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Gotta say it must have been boring watching the leading fastest Corvette C6 R snail that got lapped 40 times and finished 545 km behind the Pug diesel tractor as it crossed the line at Le Mans. No wonder GM are in Chapter 11 Nick if they can't beat a Pug diesel tractors. :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: You are comparing a GT2 car to an LMP? Edited June 17, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) You are comparing a GT2 car to an LMP? No need to get violent Nick The good old reliable trusty FAST DIESEL Tractor technology of the Pug FAST DIESEL POWERED it to victory, it was 40 laps & 340 miles in front of the nearest a very slow piece of GASOLINE Corvette C6 R JUNK as it crossed the line for victory no wonder GM don't sell cars in Europe anymore with vehicles this slooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Diesel are the torque of the town everywhere except on BON. You can't beat a Pug diesel & Ford share their engines in Europe. Edited June 20, 2009 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) it was 40 laps & 340 miles in front of the nearest a very slow piece of GASOLINE Corvette C6 R JUNK :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: So, let me get this straight. You think the highest gas-powered car was the Corvette C6 R? And you think that the ACO hasn't written rules favoring diesels? When the ACO framed the equivalency rules in 2003 (for 2004) it offered a carrot for a diesel to challenge for outright victory – also attracting a return from Peugeot, slated for 2007. A diesel, either supercharged or turbocharged, can displace 5.5 litres – against 4.0 litres for forced induction petrol engines or 6.0 for naturally-aspirated petrol. Maximum boost for a diesel is related to displacement, and for the R10 is 2.94bar absolute, while a single-turbo diesel must run a single 55.9mm restrictor and a twin turbo (like the R10) is allowed two 39.9mm restrictors. Baretzky acknowledges the rules were framed to give an incentive: ‘The ACO knew they had to give a theoretical advantage at least. Any company looking to move into diesel would have to take an enormous risk, because making a diesel race engine is very different from making a gasoline (petrol) race engine.’ http://www.racecar-engineering.com/article...di-r10-tdi.html Seems to me, you give a diesel engine about a 40% displacement advantage over a gas engine, and that makes up for a lot of ehhhhmmmm inefficiencies in race application... Because, I gotta tell ya, Jelly, the diesels, they ain't a-winnin' at Daytona--which, you know, doesn't use the ACO's rulebook. Don't see many diesels in open wheel racing either.................... Edited June 20, 2009 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, the fastest gasoline powered car was a Lola-Aston Martin that finished 9 laps behind the wining Pug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: Because, I gotta tell ya, Jelly, the diesels, they ain't a-winnin' at Daytona--which, you know, doesn't use the ACO's rulebook. Don't see many diesels in open wheel racing either.................... Pug & Audi diesels hold lap records on some of US racetracks in ALMS but they don't do boring oval racing. Gotta say the Nurburgring in Germany is the greatest track in the world Richard. Ford's legendary gasoline powered Capri hold the third fastest recorded lap times just behind James Hunts F1 McLaren & Nicki Laudas F1 Ferrari on the older longer track and nothing still has beaten the awesome Capri's Lap Times not even todays latest and greatest. Nurburgring Lap Records Ford's awesome gasoline Capri still beats the lot including todays modern junk. LINK Edited June 20, 2009 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 they don't do boring oval racing. Daytona 24 ain't an oval. And you can betcher sweet bippy they'd be at Daytona if they got a 40% displacement advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) Pug & Audi diesels hold lap records on some of US racetracks in ALMS but they don't do boring oval racing. Gotta say the Nurburgring in Germany is the greatest track in the world Richard. Ford's legendary gasoline powered Capri hold the third fastest recorded lap times just behind James Hunts F1 McLaren & Nicki Laudas F1 Ferrari on the older longer track and nothing still has beaten the awesome Capri's Lap Times not even todays latest and greatest. Nurburgring Lap Records Ford's awesome gasoline Capri still beats the lot including todays modern junk. LINK Those times are for competiton cars FJM - pretty darned impressive all the same..... Daytona 24 ain't an oval. And you can betcher sweet bippy they'd be at Daytona if they got a 40% displacement advantage. Wow, I just got a huge Rowan and Martin flash back. Edited June 21, 2009 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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