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There is a saying in Canada. If the US sneezes, Canada catches pneumonia. What happens in the US has a huge impact on Canada, especially if the US has a socialist protectionist government. We are your biggest trading partner. I am of Aboriginal, Acadian, "New England Planter" (1762 immigration from what is present day US), Mayflower-1620, "Redcoat" 1749, decent. Virtually nobody is as American as I am. I am talking about the American hemisphere. I tell you to get out. You don't tell me to get out. I love this land. I am just not particularly fond of the present form of government. We went through over a century and a half of British occupation. I didn't care much for that either, looking back at history. How would you like it if some Tory, back in 1776 told you to get out of America if you didn't like it? They were the ones that had to get out. Canada wanted the Redcoats out too but didn't have the muscle to make it happen. My hat has always been off to the brave Revolutionaries who accomplished the near impossible. I am saddened to see present day socialists pissing it all away.

your not American, your Canadian!

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Put the bottle down and stop with the ""we"" bullshit. YOU are an idiot and I don't care when your relatives landed here .....go home, you are depriving a village of it's idiot.

 

A lot of idiots have elected a whole succession of opportunists. Impossible entitlements are being paid with fake money. We are living in a dream world bubble which is soon going to pop. Who are the idiots? Are they the ones that tell you that you can spend your way out of debt, or the ones that say that this will lead to disaster? You can't have everything just because someone else has it.

 

Ok, how about this? Would this be right? The US prints up unlimited money so that Americans can have health care, pensions, and other entitlements. The rest of the world either honors these phony dollars, or the US will nuke them. That is what it is coming down to. That is the new socialism. The rest of the world are slaves to the US (and Europe, and Canada).

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You have no clue what you are shooting out of your pie hole.

 

Whoooo I'm scared. With your command of the English language, and quick mental abilities, and supreme reasoning powers, I would be a fool to take you on in a public forum. Ok; give me your opinions, and if I don't have an answer, I will disappear for a few weeks, like Charly, until I get my courage back.

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It is amazing how gullible some are.

 

Of course the powers behind Fox News know this, that is why they give space to the paranoid rantings of Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Cheney, Bolton and like minded fear mongers.

 

Fox and Dick Armey and his backers are launching a 'religion' based on absurd beliefs. The Mormons (like Beck) are quite prominent in this 'new conservatism' or Tea-Bag movement.

 

Trim shows by his comments that he has been totally taken in and converted.

 

This is why Fox News is dangerous.

 

The paranoid ravings will lead to violence.

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Now I get it....You guys don't want to hear anything from a far right non US citizen...I guess I understand that...I think we all need to accept opinions that disagree with our own...we don't have to agree or even comment ... but when people start name calling and using slurs...discussions get ugly.....MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

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It is amazing how gullible some are.

 

Of course the powers behind Fox News know this, that is why they give space to the paranoid rantings of Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Cheney, Bolton and like minded fear mongers.

 

Fox and Dick Armey and his backers are launching a 'religion' based on absurd beliefs. The Mormons (like Beck) are quite prominent in this 'new conservatism' or Tea-Bag movement.

 

Trim shows by his comments that he has been totally taken in and converted.

 

This is why Fox News is dangerous.

 

The paranoid ravings will lead to violence.

I can see the headlines now..."man kills wife..will use the Fox News defense"..........you take yourself way too serious...

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It is amazing how gullible some are.

 

Of course the powers behind Fox News know this, that is why they give space to the paranoid rantings of Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Cheney, Bolton and like minded fear mongers.

 

Fox and Dick Armey and his backers are launching a 'religion' based on absurd beliefs. The Mormons (like Beck) are quite prominent in this 'new conservatism' or Tea-Bag movement.

 

Trim shows by his comments that he has been totally taken in and converted.

 

This is why Fox News is dangerous.

 

The paranoid ravings will lead to violence.

 

The right hold Tea Parties. You saw the left wing demonstrators recently in Copenhagen. Who was violent?

 

I am not taken in by anybody. I have held conservative views for over 40 years. I was a liberal in my youth when I was not as smart as I am now. I see where all of you left wingers are coming from because I was like you back in my teen years before I started to think for myself. I know how you feel about FOX News. I feel the same way about CNN and CBC. Fox gives all of the news. They don't cover up government scandals like Acorn, Climategate, Van Jones, etc. Sometimes they push religion. I don't believe in religion, but it is everybody's right. Sometimes they stretch to discredit the administration, which is wrong, but it is mild compared to what the mainstream media does to try and discredit conservatism. We can stand on our own logic. We don't have to resort to personal attacks. Liberals have to brainwash their victims because what they teach will not stand up to scrutiny. If you look at who liberals are and who conservatives are, it is easy to see who has the better people. Poor, uneducated people are overwhelmingly liberal. People educated in the Arts, which is easier to learn than the sciences, and which uses a lot of indoctrination, are mostly liberal. Conservatives are the wealthy, business types, and thinkers. The "red-neck" conservative is a myth. Many people who are too deep into religion vote conservative because conservatism is not a religion like liberalism. One religion will not tolerate another religion. Liberal leaders will go through the motions of honouring religion to get votes, but they are not sinsere. They have their religion, and they want us all to have it.

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I spelled "sincere" wrong. I do not have the edit function, so I can't correct that. I am sure that if I had not corrected it, your whole rebuttal would be based on a spelling error. Liberals don't have much in their ideology arsenal. They can't meet conservatives head on. They have to evade and change the subject, and slander a person.

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FOX doesn't do personal attacks?

what about Beck calling Obama a racist?

 

According to a liberal, the term "racist" is part of the description of any conservative. That is how they turn easily swayed people away from conservatism. Conservatives make up over half of the population. If they are evil, the whole country is evil. Liberalism is a failed experiment which carries on much like religions do, by brainwashing the gullible.

 

I have been everything from poverty class to upper middle class, and I know how they all live and think. Giving handouts to the poor keeps them poor, as it takes away their pride and incentive to better themselves. Socialist government programs cost the economy ten times more than they provide, thereby creating more unemployment and lower standard of living for the working class. The most efficient way to get money fron the well off to the poor is to let the people spend their own money, and the poor can work to create the goods and services and earn the money. Taxation for welfare creates nothing but a bunch of useless beaurocrats and permanent welfare recipients. It is nothing but a waste of peoples' lives.

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According to a liberal, the term "racist" is part of the description of any conservative. That is how they turn easily swayed people away from conservatism. Conservatives make up over half of the population. If they are evil, the whole country is evil. Liberalism is a failed experiment which carries on much like religions do, by brainwashing the gullible.

 

I have been everything from poverty class to upper middle class, and I know how they all live and think. Giving handouts to the poor keeps them poor, as it takes away their pride and incentive to better themselves. Socialist government programs cost the economy ten times more than they provide, thereby creating more unemployment and lower standard of living for the working class. The most efficient way to get money fron the well off to the poor is to let the people spend their own money, and the poor can work to create the goods and services and earn the money. Taxation for welfare creates nothing but a bunch of useless beaurocrats and permanent welfare recipients. It is nothing but a waste of peoples' lives.

oooh so Obama is a conservative. Trim your making more sense every day, as long as that is a day I don't take my meds!

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I don't know what your definition of racist is but...I see many more Blacks in his appointed positions then in any other administration...therefore he appears to be hiring with race as a factor...that's racist....what's your opinion?

I didn't count how many he hired compared to say population levels, but compared to prior administrations I am sure he is higher.

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Fox shows serve as GOP echo chamber

By LEONARD PITTS JR.

lpitts@MiamiHerald.com

 

Perhaps you are familiar with an old saying: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I've found that maxim valuable as I wade through the recent hand-wringing and recrimination among journalists and their critics over the fact that most mainstream media were slow to pick up on the story of corruption at ACORN.

 

New York Times ombudsman Clark Hoyt (a former colleague) and Andrew Alexander, his counterpart at the Washington Post, are among those who have asked whether that laggard performance reflects an unfortunate deafness to conservative media.

 

As one of my readers put it, ``There is a lot wrong with ACORN, and Fox was the only channel talking about it.''

 

I might join this pity party if I thought Fox a credible news source. I do not. Consider just a few of the network's and its hosts' recent lowlights:

 

June 3 -- In a column, Bill O'Reilly says he never called murdered abortion doctor George Tiller ``a baby killer.''

 

This is wrong. PolitiFact.com has documented 24 instances just since 2005 of O'Reilly referring to the doctor as ``Tiller the baby killer.''

 

June 10 -- Glenn Beck asks, ``Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it.''

 

This is incorrect. Canada has it, as do 32 other nations.

 

June 18 -- Sean Hannity says that under the ``cash For clunkers'' program, ``all we've got to do is . . . go to a local junkyard. All you've got to do is tow it to your house, and you're going to get $4,500.''

 

This is false. The program required the car to be drivable and to have been registered for at least a year.

 

July 22 -- Beck says the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy ``has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.''

 

This is untrue. The claim is based on a textbook John Holdren co-authored in 1977 that analyzed and rejected such coercive means of birth control.

 

July 31 -- Kimberly Guilfoyle claims the government will get total access in perpetuity to the computer of any participant in the ``cash For clunkers'' program who signs up at the government website, cars.gov.

 

This is inaccurate. FactCheck.org reports this claim is based on a security notice required of car dealers who access a secure area of the website.

 

Let me make this next point crystalline; every news organization from CNN to CBS to the Miami Herald to the L.A. Times gets it wrong on occasion, and every single report risks reflecting the biases -- political, racial, religious, class, educational, geographical, generational -- of the reporter. This will be true until the day the news business is no longer run by human beings.

 

But Fox is in a class by itself. In its epidemic inaccuracy, its ongoing disregard for basic journalistic standards of fairness, its demagogic appeals and its blatantly ideological promotions it is, indeed, unique -- a news source in name only.

 

That's not just an opinion: A 2003 study found Fox viewers more likely to be misinformed than those who get their news elsewhere.

 

Yet because this network that cries wolf, this network of birthers, terrorist fist bumps and tea party promotions, got it right for a change, mainstream media should wear sackcloth and ashes for their failure to take it seriously? No.

 

What missing the ACORN story suggests is a need for mainstream reporters to develop more sources among conservative activists and bloggers.

 

But Fox forfeited any expectation of being taken seriously by serious people when it made itself an echo chamber less concerned with reporting news than with affirming the ideological biases of its viewers.

 

When faced with a broken clock, after all, the person who wants to know the time has two options: Try to guess when the reading is right . . .

 

Or get another clock.

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Fox shows serve as GOP echo chamber

By LEONARD PITTS JR.

lpitts@MiamiHerald.com

 

Perhaps you are familiar with an old saying: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I've found that maxim valuable as I wade through the recent hand-wringing and recrimination among journalists and their critics over the fact that most mainstream media were slow to pick up on the story of corruption at ACORN.

 

New York Times ombudsman Clark Hoyt (a former colleague) and Andrew Alexander, his counterpart at the Washington Post, are among those who have asked whether that laggard performance reflects an unfortunate deafness to conservative media.

 

As one of my readers put it, ``There is a lot wrong with ACORN, and Fox was the only channel talking about it.''

 

I might join this pity party if I thought Fox a credible news source. I do not. Consider just a few of the network's and its hosts' recent lowlights:

 

June 3 -- In a column, Bill O'Reilly says he never called murdered abortion doctor George Tiller ``a baby killer.''

 

This is wrong. PolitiFact.com has documented 24 instances just since 2005 of O'Reilly referring to the doctor as ``Tiller the baby killer.''

 

June 10 -- Glenn Beck asks, ``Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it.''

 

This is incorrect. Canada has it, as do 32 other nations.

 

June 18 -- Sean Hannity says that under the ``cash For clunkers'' program, ``all we've got to do is . . . go to a local junkyard. All you've got to do is tow it to your house, and you're going to get $4,500.''

 

This is false. The program required the car to be drivable and to have been registered for at least a year.

 

July 22 -- Beck says the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy ``has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.''

 

This is untrue. The claim is based on a textbook John Holdren co-authored in 1977 that analyzed and rejected such coercive means of birth control.

 

July 31 -- Kimberly Guilfoyle claims the government will get total access in perpetuity to the computer of any participant in the ``cash For clunkers'' program who signs up at the government website, cars.gov.

 

This is inaccurate. FactCheck.org reports this claim is based on a security notice required of car dealers who access a secure area of the website.

 

Let me make this next point crystalline; every news organization from CNN to CBS to the Miami Herald to the L.A. Times gets it wrong on occasion, and every single report risks reflecting the biases -- political, racial, religious, class, educational, geographical, generational -- of the reporter. This will be true until the day the news business is no longer run by human beings.

 

But Fox is in a class by itself. In its epidemic inaccuracy, its ongoing disregard for basic journalistic standards of fairness, its demagogic appeals and its blatantly ideological promotions it is, indeed, unique -- a news source in name only.

 

That's not just an opinion: A 2003 study found Fox viewers more likely to be misinformed than those who get their news elsewhere.

Yet because this network that cries wolf, this network of birthers, terrorist fist bumps and tea party promotions, got it right for a change, mainstream media should wear sackcloth and ashes for their failure to take it seriously? No.

 

What missing the ACORN story suggests is a need for mainstream reporters to develop more sources among conservative activists and bloggers.

 

But Fox forfeited any expectation of being taken seriously by serious people when it made itself an echo chamber less concerned with reporting news than with affirming the ideological biases of its viewers.

 

When faced with a broken clock, after all, the person who wants to know the time has two options: Try to guess when the reading is right . . .

 

Or get another clock.

 

Here is the survey from 2003 - Link

 

I don't know that quoting a 6 year old survey really helps his cause. The other scary point is how bad all the TV media did - You better stick to NPR and PBS if you want the story straight.

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Fox shows serve as GOP echo chamber

By LEONARD PITTS JR.

lpitts@MiamiHerald.com

 

Perhaps you are familiar with an old saying: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I've found that maxim valuable as I wade through the recent hand-wringing and recrimination among journalists and their critics over the fact that most mainstream media were slow to pick up on the story of corruption at ACORN.

 

New York Times ombudsman Clark Hoyt (a former colleague) and Andrew Alexander, his counterpart at the Washington Post, are among those who have asked whether that laggard performance reflects an unfortunate deafness to conservative media.

 

As one of my readers put it, ``There is a lot wrong with ACORN, and Fox was the only channel talking about it.''

 

I might join this pity party if I thought Fox a credible news source. I do not. Consider just a few of the network's and its hosts' recent lowlights:

 

June 3 -- In a column, Bill O'Reilly says he never called murdered abortion doctor George Tiller ``a baby killer.''

 

This is wrong. PolitiFact.com has documented 24 instances just since 2005 of O'Reilly referring to the doctor as ``Tiller the baby killer.''

 

June 10 -- Glenn Beck asks, ``Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it.''

 

This is incorrect. Canada has it, as do 32 other nations.

 

June 18 -- Sean Hannity says that under the ``cash For clunkers'' program, ``all we've got to do is . . . go to a local junkyard. All you've got to do is tow it to your house, and you're going to get $4,500.''

 

This is false. The program required the car to be drivable and to have been registered for at least a year.

 

July 22 -- Beck says the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy ``has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.''

 

This is untrue. The claim is based on a textbook John Holdren co-authored in 1977 that analyzed and rejected such coercive means of birth control.

 

July 31 -- Kimberly Guilfoyle claims the government will get total access in perpetuity to the computer of any participant in the ``cash For clunkers'' program who signs up at the government website, cars.gov.

 

This is inaccurate. FactCheck.org reports this claim is based on a security notice required of car dealers who access a secure area of the website.

 

Let me make this next point crystalline; every news organization from CNN to CBS to the Miami Herald to the L.A. Times gets it wrong on occasion, and every single report risks reflecting the biases -- political, racial, religious, class, educational, geographical, generational -- of the reporter. This will be true until the day the news business is no longer run by human beings.

 

But Fox is in a class by itself. In its epidemic inaccuracy, its ongoing disregard for basic journalistic standards of fairness, its demagogic appeals and its blatantly ideological promotions it is, indeed, unique -- a news source in name only.

 

That's not just an opinion: A 2003 study found Fox viewers more likely to be misinformed than those who get their news elsewhere.

 

Yet because this network that cries wolf, this network of birthers, terrorist fist bumps and tea party promotions, got it right for a change, mainstream media should wear sackcloth and ashes for their failure to take it seriously? No.

 

What missing the ACORN story suggests is a need for mainstream reporters to develop more sources among conservative activists and bloggers.

 

But Fox forfeited any expectation of being taken seriously by serious people when it made itself an echo chamber less concerned with reporting news than with affirming the ideological biases of its viewers.

 

When faced with a broken clock, after all, the person who wants to know the time has two options: Try to guess when the reading is right . . .

 

Or get another clock.

Still scared of Fox news, I see..........BOOO!

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oooh so Obama is a conservative. Trim your making more sense every day, as long as that is a day I don't take my meds!

 

You read the first line, misinterpreted what I was saying, and came to a dumb conclusion. Don't be afraid. Read it carefully. If you turn conservative, that would be a good thing. The words won't bite you. Why do you think your liberal masters tell you not to pay any attention to conservatives? Conservatives don't do that. They pity poor liberal idiots. It doesn't take much intellect to prove a liberal wrong, but no amount of proving will convince him to change his beliefs. That is why I call liberalism a religion. It is not based on logic; just lies and brainwashing.

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Why don't you post some facts?

 

Too lazy to find them?

 

Or do you just prefer innuendo?

 

You seem very Republican to me.....no answers....no solutions ...no facts....just NO.

 

You don't want to discuss it huh, imagine that.

An opinion different than yours and right away I'm a republican. You sure like to label people.

Just because we only have 2 major parties doesn't mean that we all walk in lock step with the crooks in DC

ANYONE that claims either party at this point is blind to what is going on, in my opinion.

I asked earlier, Do you think this administration has more blacks in it than any other has in the past? Simple question

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