TopCat501 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It would be nice to see Ford have a contract more in line with GM & Chrysler http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UAW-calls-Fo...set=&ccode= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It would be nice to see Ford have a contract more in line with GM & Chrysler If it doesn't come with product commitments, don't expect it to pass. Not that it is anybodies business besides Ford and its employees..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Not that it is anybodies business besides Ford and its employees..... ...and shareholders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 ...and shareholders. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 ...and shareholders. Either way, it has no business being on the 6 o'clock news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Either way, it has no business being on the 6 o'clock news. Do you not think it's big news? What happens in the contract affects a lot of people outside of the contract print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Either way, it has no business being on the 6 o'clock news. Why not? If people want to know about it, it's newsworthy in my opinion. People obviously want to know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 ...and shareholders. Oh yes Kirk...Sorry been there, if you don't like the way the company is headed click the sell button. Good luck and have a nice day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Oh yes Kirk...Sorry been there, if you don't like the way the company is headed click the sell button.Good luck and have a nice day That runs counter-intuitive to half of the very reason people buy stock in the first place - to influence company behavior. If you don't like that shareholders are rightfully involved in the process of running the company, I suggest you find a job with a privately-owned company instead. Edited October 9, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Do you not think it's big news? What happens in the contract affects a lot of people outside of the contract print. I think it's huge news.....to me. But I am an employee. And, if you're concerned about the people that are affected outside of the contract, start buying American you import shill. How many shares of Ford do you own, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That runs counter-intuitive to half of the very reason people buy stock in the first place - to influence company behavior. If you don't like that shareholders are rightfully involved in the process of running the company, I suggest you find a job with a privately-owned company instead. How many shares of Ford do you own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) How many shares of Ford do you own? None of your business. :P But if you really must know? None. So why would I be interested in any of this, you ask? Because I like Ford Motor Company and want to see them succeed. That includes their products, their employees, and everything else related to the company. These negotiations are critical to the health of the company and the employees, so I'm interested in knowing how they are going. Edited October 9, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It would be nice to see Ford have a contract more in line with GM & Chrysler http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UAW-calls-Fo...set=&ccode= Which part...specifically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpc655 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) If it doesn't come with product commitments, don't expect it to pass. Not that it is anybodies business besides Ford and its employees..... Product commitments? Does ford get sales commitments too? The UAW and ford make this the public's business. Edited October 9, 2009 by kpc655 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddaughter Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 BOO! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That runs counter-intuitive to half of the very reason people buy stock in the first place - to influence company behavior. If you don't like that shareholders are rightfully involved in the process of running the company, I suggest you find a job with a privately-owned company instead. Easy...Big person, how many shares are outstanding, so every person is allowed to dictate company policy? We know it doesn't work that way and it can't work like that. A stock purchase is also a vote of confidence in the direction a company is being run. I have a lot of Ford stock but I don't think it entitles me to dictate policy. Have a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Product commitments? Does ford get sales commitments too? The UAW and ford make this the public's business. Well, since Ford wants their employees benefits and compensation to match the competitions, when does Ford's management have to do the same? There are caps on Japanese executives. Put that in our contract, I would vote for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The UAW and ford make this the public's business. Explain please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Easy...Big person, how many shares are outstanding, so every person is allowed to dictate company policy?We know it doesn't work that way and it can't work like that. A stock purchase is also a vote of confidence in the direction a company is being run. I have a lot of Ford stock but I don't think it entitles me to dictate policy. Have a good day. I take it you've never participated in a shareholder vote before, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probeGT Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 By this same logic, we--the shareholders, the curious, etc.--should also be "in the loop" when a company is negotiating with a potential CEO or other executive, or handing out bonuses, etc. I'm for openness in all of it . . . but we only ever get to peek in at it when it involves the little guys . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpc655 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Explain please by taking ownership stakes, asking for government bailouts, lobbying government officials for support, by pursuing preferential production contracts etc. The uaw has a marketing arm...just like ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 By this same logic, we--the shareholders, the curious, etc.--should also be "in the loop" when a company is negotiating with a potential CEO or other executive, or handing out bonuses, etc. I'm for openness in all of it . . . but we only ever get to peek in at it when it involves the little guys . . . I would agree with that, and to much of an extent the shareholders are privy to such things. After all, it is the shareholders who elect the board of directors who usually make those kinds of decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I take it you've never participated in a shareholder vote before, have you? none of your business :shades: But if u must know yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 by taking ownership stakes, asking for government bailouts, lobbying government officials for support, by pursuing preferential production contracts etc. The uaw has a marketing arm...just like ford. bailouts, lobbying... We weren't allowed a voice in wall streets bonuses, save your bitterness for congress and the senate P.S. Ford didn't receive public money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 none of your business :shades: But if u must know yes So you've used your stake as a stockholder to influence company policy. :shrug: Oh well, it's too late on a Friday to have this argument. Cheers! :beerchug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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